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Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

Started by Pirate88179, July 14, 2009, 09:40:58 PM

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IotaYodi

QuoteThe meter shows 100 volts (just about) yet he is lighting 2 leds.  I would think those would have fried at that voltage.  I favorited it for further analysis.  I wonder how much power he is getting from this?
I just see an expensive series bank in free air. I did not see any amp measurements at all. With the amount of stacks he had at 100 volts it should have lit more than led,s. It is interesting though.
What I really didn't like was the music all the way through. An initial splash screen (like yours) that identifys is great. But it should be down to business after that with the verbal or at least some closeups.
Jmo!
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Cosmicfarmer

Thanks for the warm welcome, Electricme.

Its not cheese being made in the moon, its Mochi :-)  I have a pet rabbit up there pounding away...

I am interested to see if power is increased if that "tower" is entrained in the ground. Neat idea but if it works out of the ground then its all galvanic IMHO. Still amazing, but people will want to hook huge loads to it and get dissapointed when it dosn't work. That tower idea would go great in a flashlight body, and instead of changing the batteries, you would have to just get it wet. Leave it in a stream for a while or something.

About stubblefield coils...  How were they wound? in the patent picture it almost looks like each wrap was on top of each other, and when it got to the perimeter, another layer was made (series pancake coils). I tried that and realized it was harder to do then I thought because my steel wire was smaller then my copper... I wrapped felt insulation between everything.  So I made one "pancake layer" and then just wrapped the rest of the coil normal style, with felt layers. 3 layers total. I also need to make a connection from the core too, right?

About pancake vs cylinders... Dr.Stiffler says that a pancake coil slows down the (E field?) to slower then the speed of light while a cylinder speeds it up much faster when being pulsed... The speed up was contributed to capacitance coupling - the power taking a shortcut through a quicker path.    So I was thinking to gather power, wouldn't pancakes be better then cylinders? The wave would impact all wire at once instead of being guided through 1 at a time, giving more amps. The pancake acting as a brake while the cylinder acting as a turbo...

Cheers!

IotaYodi

Quoteif i can find a suitable substitute for these things i would like to make a field of hundreds of them
You could make a tier adding potential surface area and saving ground space.
A 10 foot stick of 1/2" copper plumbing pipe is about 8 dollars here. Cut the pipe to the length needed and stack them vertically against each other on top of one plate. You would need to solder them to the plate.
With 3 plates you could make 2 tiers or 3 stacks if wanted. 3 stacks may be better as you could wrap copper wire all the way around the three stacks of pipes, like a coil just not mag wire, adding even more surface area. You could possibly use copper foil also. If your real industrious you could even make 45 degree wraps and possibly pick up scalar waves too. I have only seen coil types wound for scalar waves myself though. Jai; Just an idea.
After thought. Im wondering if wrapping thin copper foil with the same surface area around a non conductive core,even if tightly, would let the flow of energy in at a faster rate rather than a hard surface. Just wondering.
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IotaYodi

@Cosmic farmer
QuoteThe ground signal was about 3 volts 45 hz clean looking AC. I even turned off all my house power at the breaker except for the scope and it was still clean AC.
I noticed that in the video. You may want to try it with a Ups unplugged and the house panel main off to see what you get. House wiring puts out a substantial  electromagnetic field. Even with one circuit on you are still tied into the grid through the neutral. The neutral can put out transients to the ground if they share the same ground bar.  I would think the scope would have filters on it though to stop the emf. If nothing else was on the one circuit experiment the reading should be right. In labs most scopes are on a dedicated circuit. All audio recording equipment should be on a dedicated circuit with star grounding. You would plug in Recorders,effects,mixing boards etc all into the same circuit. This avoids transients and keeps the ground close to zero potential. Your entertainment center of tvs etc is better off this way too.
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jeanna

Quote from: Pirate88179 on August 03, 2009, 02:51:51 AM
Smokey:
... I had never really thought about cement as an insulator before but then, I learn something new here every day.

Bill
Hi Sm0ky2 and Bill,
Do you remember the 3 cement pots I made in an effort to isolate my EB probes but to have them in the earth in an earth-like container?

I was not able to fully insulate the probes in the 3 pots.

Remember that when you try to make a series connection in the ground, you get zero volts. You don't even get the volts you got with one pair.
So, When I put the pots into the ground I had to let them stay there a while because before the cement cured, they acted like plain soil. I lost the volts from the original probes.
Also, when they finally cured enough, the potential I gained was only 0.1 volt or less.

So, my conclusion after all that is that cement is a very lousy insulator from earth currents.

It makes me wonder what if I put some probes in those pots and looked with the scope?

I need to get some more nails. (I keep stealing them from my tent.)

Oh, and another thing to add about cement. Do you remember the pyramid thread trowager deal? So many people made precision pyramids but found nothing? In the very beginning someone saw a reaction happening with the 5% salt water in sand that trowager used to fill the copper pipe.
I made up a mixture of 5% salt water in sand in a glass jar and stuck meter probes in it to see.
There was a fair amount of activity for a while.
I did not have it in a copper tube, just a glass jar, so I think there is some reaction the sand in the cement could offer to an earth set up.

Personally, I think Sm0ky2 has the idea. Make inductor/ antennas and stick them into the ground and figure how to connect them up.

jeanna