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Started by Grumpy, August 10, 2009, 09:48:27 AM

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innovation_station

grumpy are you sedjusting that we smack a neo with a coil in the center of the neo and manipulate the flux of the neo via hivoltage cap discharge ... 

hummmm

lot of engery in a cap when released all at once ... all fast like ...  if the neo isnt flying across the room ...  then i bet the flux is .....   

ist!!

but what if i powered 2 coils stacked aircore ...  will i get a gryo effect cuz the high speed switching and the air core...  if i do then i could tap the electro magic feilds ..

i could even use IRON WIRE TO COLLECT IT.....   

;D   might help to contain it too...
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

Grumpy

Quote from: innovation_station on August 19, 2009, 02:08:17 PM
grumpy are you sedjusting that we smack a neo with a coil in the center of the neo and manipulate the flux of the neo via hivoltage cap discharge ... 

No. I am suggesting to use the initial energy that manifest in a circuit (which allows a magnetic field to manifest in the first place) rather than a magnetic field.

What I'm talking about is using the induction-like response of a conductor to this intitial energy which causes the electrons to flow.   Make "something" that puts out this initial energy and allows you to utilize it.  If you think that this initial energy is not "inductive", then how do transients fom lightning induce such massive currents in long wires?  How do solar flares overload capacitors?
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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BEP

Quote from: Grumpy on August 19, 2009, 01:32:43 PM
I know everyone has heard of "electromagnetic induction", but has anyone ever heard of "nonmagnetic induction"? (excluding electrostatic induction)

Then it would be 'momentum induction'. I'm sure there are other explanations but it is basically momentum being transferred from one body to another. Even if the primary is fed with A.C. the output is mostly D.C.

Even if the magnetic field of the primary crosses the secondary there is little to no effect, by the magnetic field from the primary, on the secondary. The reason is the primary and secondary are either perpendicular to one another or there is a magnetic barrier between them.

There was an old Westinghouse transformer patent showing separate toroidal primary with multiple secondaries. The secondaries were poloidal to the primary and had their own cores. All toroids were designed to enclose its own magnetic field within its core.

It was claimed to be much more efficient than common transformers with no transfer of electromagnetic noise from primary to secondary.

Grumpy

Quote from: BEP on August 19, 2009, 04:14:25 PM
Then it would be 'momentum induction'. I'm sure there are other explanations but it is basically momentum being transferred from one body to another. Even if the primary is fed with A.C. the output is mostly D.C.

Even if the magnetic field of the primary crosses the secondary there is little to no effect, by the magnetic field from the primary, on the secondary. The reason is the primary and secondary are either perpendicular to one another or there is a magnetic barrier between them.

There was an old Westinghouse transformer patent showing separate toroidal primary with multiple secondaries. The secondaries were poloidal to the primary and had their own cores. All toroids were designed to enclose its own magnetic field within its core.

It was claimed to be much more efficient than common transformers with no transfer of electromagnetic noise from primary to secondary.

Once again, BEP, you come through loud and clear.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

BEP

Quote from: Grumpy on August 19, 2009, 05:16:09 PM
Once again, BEP, you come through loud and clear.

Can I put a gold star on my calendar?  ;D

Seriously...

I use this.  Make yourself a simple coil. Instead of a ferrous core use a conductive core. Bang the coil with A.C., D.C., pulses, whatever. Read the voltage from one end of the conductive core to the other and note the polarity. It will be very small.

Now connect that core in series with the coil so the measured core polarity works 'with' the applied polarity of the coil for pulsed D.C.

When current is going through the coil it 'induces' the same direction current into the core which 'induces' the same current direction in the coil, etc., etc., etc.

No. This example won't give you free energy and it works better if the coil is canceling bifilar  :)

If you wrap a few turns of wire on a short piece of wire don't expect much  :P