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[wattsup]

@BEP and @EM

Yes I thought about that also that who needs a rectifier since it is already making dc, lol, yep, but at least a few diodes to push the motion forward looped.

But now I am thinking, a battery can work three ways - as a power supply - as a diode - and as a capacitor. It will move power through one way, plus the positive side can both supply power and accept flyback.

The general repeating idea in this free energy quest is - use a battery to drive a frequency pulsing component as one stream, then supply another power source through the pulsing component into a hopefully etheric coiling and hope for the best. We do this because the initial supply pulsing voltage is usually lower then the anticipated output voltage so we have a tendency to split the streams into two distinct operations, one feed side and one output side, or, like a little gear turning a big gear.

Usually a battery like a car battery will give lots of amp hours. But what if the battery is chosen to tolerate being in or inline to a regenerative circuit that builds up to 110 volts dc 1 amp. But when you turn off the device, the battery only has 6 volts and 1/3 of an amp but it can tolerate being physically connected into a higher voltage and higher amperage environment (and again just maybe for about 20 minutes before it blows).

So this morning I did a small test. I took a battery holder that holds 2 AA batteries, a light bulb socket with a small 110 vac 11 watts bulb and my 30 volts dc power supply. I connected the bulb directly to my power supply and put the voltage and amperage dials to maximum. The power supply read 30.8 volts at 0.03 amps and the bulb was just lit enough to redden the filament. I then put the battery pack inline so the power supply positive went to the battery negative and the battery positive went to the bulb and the other side of the bulb went to the power supply negative. Turned the power supply on and it reads again 30.8 volts and 0.03 amps and the bulb is lit the same as before. So this shows me that the battery itself could be used inline to the output that also feeds the input. But the question would then be can a battery stay in a much higher amperage and voltage enrvironment then what it was designed to supply initially. If this is possible, then the design would definitely be much simply, more direct requiring less components and fully regenerative to the point that the battery is only required to start her up.

Otherwise the battery has to stay on one side, run the base pulse and receive a side current to keep the battery powered, which is the conventional way of thinking.

Seems to me that there has to be a new way of thinking of where the source power is located in the circuit for proper looping purposes. I am convinced all SM devices had batteries.

This, if based on the fact that nothing in the TPU is there for nothing.

1) FTPU spool center hole shows a battery like object when turned upside down.
2) OPTU left leg has a sheath cover over it for easy battery change.
3) STPU and 6TPU have enough room inside the ring core to hide a few batteries and at this stage of designs, probably placed in the regenerative circuit and does not require replacement. 2 or three battery in parallel would supply more amperage/voltage pass through.
4) LTPU, has lots of space in the center base hollow to hide batteries, have them in series then in parallel to again be in line with the output.

Question: Can a battery be used to regulate or clean an output.

Another point, when we talk of batteries, we look for a power switch, so, in the FTPU-3695 mapping you will notice E1 is a shrink tube that is directly near the magnet placement TMR terminal. This is the only place you can see a shrink tube. All other connections on the FTPU are nicely soldered but only there is a shrink tube. This shrink tube probably has a small reed switch (RS) that gets closed when he puts the magnet on the terminals. He also used the magnet on the OTPU and STPU, but then on the 6TPUa and LTPU he had a mechanical switch and no magnet. Yes he swung a magnet near the LTPU Toroids but that was most likely for showmanship as another distraction. I can't recall if the 6TPUb used in the inverter/TV video used a switch or a magnet or nothing at all.

[Grumpy]

SM found a way to cause electrons to drift in a conductor without physically rotating a magnet. 

Tesla, Bedini and others charged batteries and capacitors using HV impulses which produced DC in conductors.  They did not move a magnet across a conductor.

Joseph Henry magnetized iron nails two floors below his lab by discharging a capacitor into a coil to magnetize needles.

So, the shockwave charges batteries and capacitors and magnetizes ferromagnetic objects at a distance.

If your pulse circuit produces arcs from coil connections to insulated conductors only while in operation, then you only have dielectric induction and not the shockwave effect.

Google "solar flares" and read how they overload power distribution systems.  The shockwave is a natural phenomenon.

[BEP]

if the FTPU >>> but if there is nothing to power it, then it truly becomes something interesting, and that's why he is showing us the video.

Yes. The action must have been extraordinary or it wouldn't have been shown at all

This means passive components only.

It think this is correct in the smallest TPU. I doubt the little disc inserted is a battery. I think it is a magnet. This would place the operation of that one similar to the coils of Stephan Marinov.

Now,  his later devices could very well be a combination of two things:

I think he found two ways to have the results. One almost completely passive. The other, for more stability and to avoid the upside/down problem and prevent runaway.

OR,  we are really dealing with a ROTATION phenomena that somehow produces DC, 

True, smooth rotation is the only way to produce steady DC. In order to keep producing it he had to abruptly stop the rotation on a periodic basis. This is the cancellation. The only way to collect the energy from a spinning flywheel is to apply drag. The most energy collected is when you stop it. This 'stopping' happened about 5000 times a second.

However, in one of the videos, SM says his output is high frequency, and doesn't mention DC at all.

Yes, but in other videos he calls it DC at about X number of Hertz and stammered while saying it. I think he caught himself giving out too much information.

Think about a simple speaker voice coil in the radial magnetic field of the speaker magnet.

What happens if you make it two coils? One around the other but both locked in position in that radial magnetic field. Lock them both in place with ridiculous amounts of electrical tape (like most shown TPUs),  ceramic bonding paste (like the small toroid) or the unknown black material in the large ones.

When you apply a current to one of those coils it can't move but it must. A wire in a static mag field will move when a current is applied. It does not need to be ferrous.
If it can't move that energy must go somewhere so it goes to the second coil. That coil can't move either so the energy is converted to a potential in the second coil.

Since the transferred energy is moving radially outward within the static radial field of the magnet it will feel the Lorentz force. So, not only do you have induction between the coils but with the result of the induction and Lorentz you have unidirectional current flow.

There is a reason so much effort went into restricting movement, the magnets, etc.

Sorry @Wattsup. I still don't see a need or the possibility of a battery or switch in the OTPU. In one video he shows the OTPU running without the legs but it wouldn't set level. To me the legs are just a means to set it down level.

But then, I still see more possibility of two small UHF tubes, counter wound coils, etc., etc.

You can make a tube circuit that amplifies without applying outside energy to the plate/cathode circuit. You can do the same with very few true MOSFets. Real MOSFets... the ones where the 'MO' stands for 'metal oxide' and the metal oxide is actually used.

The pulsing isn't to create rotation it is to create something to rotate and stop it so the energy can be collected.

---Just my thoughts.

[wattsup]

@BEP

Like your top portion of your post. Good points.

But in your last part, are you sure you are talking about the OTPU that has the two magnets. Which video shows it without legs. Never saw it. Also, in the regular OTPU video he does push a push-button switch mounted on the left coil/magnet that you can clearly hear and see him pushing it in the video. I even forgot about that pushbutton switch. lol

Anyways, with the information now at hand, I will make a new build.

[BEP]

@BEP

Like your top portion of your post. Good points.

But in your last part, are you sure you are talking about the OTPU that has the two magnets. Which video shows it without legs. Never saw it.

Two 'visible' magnets. If it works the way I think there are a minimum of four and possibly eight. The video was up long enough for me to see it. Whoever put it up got mad from comments on this forum and took their ball, glove and bat back home with them.

It also showed the top two magnets, in the same locations but each magnet was rotated 90 degrees. So the hole was square while the magnets rectangular.

Also, in the regular OTPU video he does push a push-button switch mounted on the left coil/magnet that you can clearly hear and see him pushing it in the video. I even forgot about that pushbutton switch. lol

Anyways, with the information now at hand, I will make a new build.

Since your first mention of those items and action I have looked several times. I've found where you probably see these things but they don't appear that way to me.