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New invention of motion less generation of electric power

Started by powercat, August 26, 2009, 08:52:05 AM

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jan.kolar

Quote from: Omega_0 on September 28, 2009, 09:58:03 AM
I'm sorry but its wrong. You could have tested it before posting.
You can't charge only one plate of a capacitor, the charge immediately appears on the other plate through induction.

The plate won't become electrically neutral, the second plate will immediately induce opposite charge in it, and the voltage will change. That's what capacitors do and that's how they work.

Yes, electrostatic induction will happen, but this effect only redistributes charge. It can't somehow magically create new charges from nothing. I think it is perfectly possible for one plate to be electrically neutral, for example by friction. See my explanatory diagrams.

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: hartiberlin on September 28, 2009, 05:35:36 AM
Here is a better resolution diagram from Dr. Jeong, that he emailed me.
Enjoy !
Regards, Stefan.
Very good, hartiberlin.  That's a much better rendition.
But the questions arise in my mind:

What would be the effect of using 1:1 toroid transformers to replace the transformers on the right side of the diagram?

What would be the effect of replacing the 20 nanofarad capacitor with the spherical capacitor in Dr. Jeong's video that he says works?  Is there one in the diagram now?

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

teslaalset

OK, a nice puzzle for you:

1) charge C1 to +12V, C2 to +24V with common ground. C1 has equal capacity as C2.
2) disconnect C1 and C2 from each other and from ground
3) connect C1+ with C2- , resulting in 36V overall voltage
4) disconnect C1 and C2, what is the voltage across each C?
5) connect C- of either C to ground, whats the new voltage over C?

gotoluc

Quote from: teslaalset on September 28, 2009, 03:34:31 PM
OK, a nice puzzle for you:

1) charge C1 to +12V, C2 to +24V with common ground. C1 has equal capacity as C2.
2) disconnect C1 and C2 from each other and from ground
3) connect C1+ with C2- , resulting in 36V overall voltage
4) disconnect C1 and C2, what is the voltage across each C?
5) connect C- of either C to ground, whats the new voltage over C?

Hi teslaalset,

I did your puzzle test and I'm puzzle by not finding anything other then C1 and C2 being close to the same as when first charged (except for a small loss of voltage which is normal).

What are your test result showing you?  Also you're not very clear about the ground. Is this Earth Ground or electrical panel ground?  since I have read that these grounds are very different between Europe and North America electrical system.

Luc

teslaalset

Quote from: gotoluc on September 28, 2009, 05:00:29 PM
Hi teslaalset,

I did your puzzle test and I'm puzzle by not finding anything other then C1 and C2 being close to the same as when first charged (except for a small loss of voltage which is normal).

What are your test result showing you?  Also you're not very clear about the ground. Is this Earth Ground or electrical panel ground?  since I have read that these grounds are very different between Europe and North America electrical system.

Luc

Luc, I checked it myself in practice. You are 100% correct.
I meant electrical panel ground, but as you indicated it does not matter to connect to ground or not.
Thanks!