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New invention of motion less generation of electric power

Started by powercat, August 26, 2009, 08:52:05 AM

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winsonali


Cap-Z-ro


" How so ? I don't understand you. Do you state that Tesla has spoken using some code and we should read it "in reverse" ? I don't think so. "

Not all in reverse, maybe just in one area or two.


" Entering into passive zone means unidirectional transfer of energy - nothing is lost ,nothing is reflected back. Now, that require ambient background as a carrier. This is how I understand it and I feel it's not far from truth. "

As you described in your swing analogy, which is very helpful with people at the entry level, forming a new ball is the key.

I just need a better understanding of component properties and interactions.

Thanks for taking the time.

Regards...


forest

winsonali

I'm not EE and I don't understand Lenz law source but I have a felling that it is simple a manifestation of Newton third law. Action vs reaction. Always apply for interconnected things
Example : two magnets, pull one the second will react
Someone could see transformer as two magnets but here we have a problem - we still don't know exactly what electricity is.
But I like Don Smith interpretation that this is like EM wave - has two faces : electrical and magnetic, flip-flop , turn one and the other will jump out.
Then transformer could be : E-M: M-E two dipoles (M- magnetic, E-electric) in two wires. Connect load to E
of secondary ,which pull this second dipole and the magnetic part of it will rise (because as Smith says E and M are equal and opposite like in dipole), this magnetic part of secondary will now affect magnetic part of primary due to Lenz law (or Newton action vs reaction law).

This is rough idea, sorry if that is completely wrong but I like it.

gravityblock

In my opinion lenz arises from the generator can run as a motor, and a motor can run as a generator.  A generator running CW will generate a current with a polarity that would drive a motor CCW.

In a generator, the opposition is against the Mechanical Energy.  In a motor, the opposition is against the Electrical Energy.

Almost every generator and motor would run at or above unity if the two weren't coupled together.

Since the passive zone is not coupled to the active zone, then this should be a path to OU.

Action vs. Reaction applies to interconnected things as you mentioned Ali.  If they're not coupled or interconnected, then the opposition force of lenz doesn't apply.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

winsonali

lenz force is nothing but a physical phenomena the reason of this force is as follows

there are three conditions

if you take  magnet close to a iron piece it will attract regardless of polarity
if a magnet face opposite directions attraction occurs
, and similar direction repulsion occurs.

in a motor a coil winded on a core , the magnet attract core material and stop in front of it, to make a move we create electromagnet that can offer repulsion so the magnet go away from there, now more powerful electromagnet means more powerful powerful motor.

In a motor we require first enough force that can equate PM force then what ever force above that we generate will make a through in rotation.

so basically there is nothing esp the force required to overcome the force of attraction between core and PM is called lens force and this is the only element that have a tendency to stop a motor.

Now we can generate an air core motor that will run but can never be very powerful like Joseph Newman he has developed a motor with air core half part is  receiver, half is dissipating power but when you apply load on them they will fail .

Bedini's motors are working motor why his system is failed?
when the  magnet appears in front of the coil it generate a voltage peak sensed by the circuit and transistor switches on to make a EM so it can create a mechanical through, smart thinking ,
but he forget one thing the same peak is also induced in EM winding he has to put double EE to overcome the induced voltage peak. so its all failed nothing esp. less efficient

the only way the motor can be very efficient is double Electro magnets firing in proper sequence , and this how latest motors are designed. but they also consume 2 powers one for rotor and other for stator so its equal to bedini's motor
In squrill cage motors the cage itself become secondary winding of the transformer.


Now where science is at this moment its at its peak in these systems if you think out of the box then possibly you get new output.

in my next post i will define four ways of EE production.

we are not far away when we discover a method for EE just like a magnet
once you pass material through a process it become PM and retain its status for years same as we will process in such a way that once EE starts its production it will retain its process for years.