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New invention of motion less generation of electric power

Started by powercat, August 26, 2009, 08:52:05 AM

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jan.kolar

Ali is only muddlying water nothing more. Maybe his device is ingenious but i dont believe on overunity. He has not answered the main question: Where this additional energy should be coming from? I dont accept his analogy with siphon because this phenomenon is very well understood by science, no energy gain here. If he would made plan of his device public then experienced members of this forum with apparatus needed could quickly confirm or refuse overunity effect.

winsonali

quick reply

it may be due to reading flaw that meters are running slow, digital meters cannot read accurately chopped inputs

the causes are defined in wiki pages, DC loads mis lead meter readings, chopped AC loads mislead meter reading,

high frequency mis lead meter reading .....

every SMPS have DC load and high frequency, every induction motor have coils and capacitor they increase meter speed not slowing them down.


;) i accept there is flaw in power meter readings and there is nothing in my circuit. This is a simple step up function for voltage.

i am happy with your conclusions
if my product can stabilize AC and can contribute electric bill reduction in all legal way i am happy


   

jan.kolar

Quote from: robbie47 on November 05, 2009, 05:37:49 AM
To confirm a Power Factor of 1.0 in parallel the input voltage shape (and phase) should be measured with the same oscilloscope, e.g. channel B, while measuring the power of the 1 Ohm resistor. Be very carefull with the way you connect the probes!!

PF = 1.0 on input is very improbable based on input voltage & current measurements and probable device elements (capacitive circuit). Regarding measurement technique as I said in my previous message if Ali would open-source his invention this could be quickly resolved.

@Mark
Why your experts dont use their measurement techniques and publish their results? I think that Ali is playing with us double-face game.

robbie47

Example of how to measure AC voltage & current with an oscilloscope attached.

I don't think Ali plays a game. He is learning what is happening.
We help him reflecting his results.

p.s. this circuit was already posted in reply #63 of this thread,I found out after posting this one.
Sorry, the honour goes to EMdevices.....

jan.kolar

Quote from: winsonali on November 05, 2009, 06:05:58 AM
every induction motor have coils and capacitor they increase meter speed not slowing them down.

Coils and capacitors dont change meter speed because these are reactive elements. They dont consume real power. You get charged only for real power i.e. for example resistive losses on windings of coil and mechanical power output.

Anyway i appreciate your work to bring new energy solutions. Every attempt to solve our energy crisis is welcome.