Bedini SSG - self sustaining

[plengo]

@Lakes, thanks for confirming what that video seams to be. A spam.

For now I am allowing a little bit of "crap" in our thread but soon if continues with things like that, I will simply delete it and delete all following responses too. No offence to anyone it is just that I HATE having to read 200 pages of talk and chat for only 10% being useful. This time I asked Stefan to give me the moderation rights so that I can keep it clean (which I do and I will).

@mscoffman

Yes, I agree with you. I dont care if aliens exists or not, if Jesus is not God (even thought I do care) or if the world is going to hell. IN THIS THREAD I only care about what is relevant to this technology and how WE can make it happen.

And as you wish, this project is for all and it will be always open source. It does not means it will succeed but I sure hope so too.

@Groundloop

Man, thank you my good friend. I am almost taking for granted your expertise and excellence in skills. It is that you present such a great focused quality work that it baffles me. :Oo) 

Thank you for sharing your new 2 in one setup. I am in the testing phase now with the TS (Tesla Switch). I just got the opts and the max chip and the HEX downloader too.

Also I am learning a lot about programming the PIC and it is fun the least to say.

Fausto.

[plengo]

Updates: Last night I purchased new 4 2000mah hours lead acid batteries from Radio Shack. They are for camcorders. Very small in size and ideal for this application. I charged them last night using my 6 pole Bedini SSG. As a matter of fact I charged 6 batteries at once using my super 6 pole with no problems and no warming or damaging to any of the batteries. What a technology!!!

I got my opts in and finally I was able to program the PIC16F84a using a PICDEM lab. I did some quick tests using MPLAB IDE. Tonight I will do a quick runtest using 4 batteries aka Tesla Switch just for the fun of it and see the reaction with this first time experience.

I will run the Tesla Switch simply because I still have to learn and play with the other board that Groundloop gave me, the one that measure the voltage. Baby steps

Fausto.

[mscoffman]

Plengo;


Glad to hear you are getting somewhere.

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In your initial schematic in this thread where you have N4007 and N5408
Listed, these should be; 1N4007 and 1N5408 respectively â€" 1N=diodes,
2N = transistors, 4N=opto’s

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If you could, in your posts, limit the line lengths, as they go off the
right side of my screen making them hard to read and summarize.
Use Preview...I’d prefer not to miss anything.

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There are about 4 difference possibilities for energy gain in
these circuit situations. The Tesla switch (without any HV
inductive pulse) makes use of only one, While the Bedini Fan
would possibly make use of all four. A high power Bedini
machine like your 6 pole SGS makes use of all four plus it has
a fifth which is actually a cheat. It really doesn’t matter though,
if you are simply using this as a battery charger, but for
energy creation that is a different thing.

It isn’t surprising to me that your Bedini SGS can charge
more than one battery at a time in parallel. Think of the Bedini
recharge pulse, as a signal; to have the batteries recharge
themselves. As long as the signal gets through to the batteries
it generally doesn’t matter how powerful the SGS is! I call the
Bedini motor ‘An Exciter’ by the way.

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Your should try to configure your tesla switch with the same three battery
configuration as the Bedini Fan using the two back-to-back batteries
as a regulator. If so I predict you will see the same kind of behavior on
the tesla switch battery voltage meter as you did on the Fan.

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Another question I had is whether the your meters have any computer
interface connector on the back? New ones are probably labeled HPIB,
the old ones probably have a connector labeled something-BCD.

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Finally, it would be nice to know what the voltages are on the batteries
after a one second “cool down” period disconnected completely from the
exciter, and whether they match the voltages on the batteries while they
are running the circuit. One could use an electrolytic capacitor to
keep the Fan circuit running while using reed relays to disconnect
battery chain completely (on both ends) from the Fan circuit for
measurement. This should stop the digit bobbling completely and allow
for one or two voltage measurements rather than a moving average
algorithm, also allowing for use of a less digit accurate meter. This may
be a necessity, if you want to use Groundloop's u'p based meter circuit.

Hopefully, doing this will not invalidate what was already seen
â€" but it could.

In any case take it easy and good luck.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[plengo]

@mscoffman

In your initial schematic in this thread where you have N4007 and N5408
Listed, these should be; 1N4007 and 1N5408 respectively â€" 1N=diodes,
2N = transistors, 4N=opto’s

you are correct. The diodes are 1N4007 and 1N5408 and the transistor 2N kinds. 
The Bedini circuit for the fan is not really relevant since ANY SSG will do.
The extra stuff is what is relevant.

I noticed the screen going to the right when pictures are embedded too. So I will
do my best with the line lenght.

There are about 4 difference possibilities for energy gain in
these circuit situations. The Tesla switch (without any HV
inductive pulse) makes use of only one, While the Bedini Fan
would possibly make use of all four. A high power Bedini
machine like your 6 pole SGS makes use of all four plus it has
a fifth which is actually a cheat. It really doesn’t matter though,
if you are simply using this as a battery charger, but for
energy creation that is a different thing.

It isn’t surprising to me that your Bedini SGS can charge
more than one battery at a time in parallel. Think of the Bedini
recharge pulse, as a signal; to have the batteries recharge
themselves. As long as the signal gets through to the batteries
it generally doesn’t matter how powerful the SGS is! I call the
Bedini motor ‘An Exciter’ by the way.

I was surprise, very surprised to see my 6 pole SSG charging as many batteries as
I want in parallel. When I did my load tests in the past I NEVER used in that configuration.
I always had one battery in the front and one in the back. Simply because I was
doing measurements to see if the Bedini's claims were correct or not.

I can not understand how can one not see the amazing benefit of an SSG when charging
many batteries as I did. I am suspicious that 6 batteries in the back-end is NOT the limit.

Your should try to configure your tesla switch with the same three battery
configuration as the Bedini Fan using the two back-to-back batteries
as a regulator. If so I predict you will see the same kind of behavior on
the tesla switch battery voltage meter as you did on the Fan.

As I was driving to work, I thought about keeping it to only
3 batteries and also use the configuration I did already (just as you mentioned).

Another question I had is whether the your meters have any computer
interface connector on the back? New ones are probably labeled HPIB,
the old ones probably have a connector labeled something-BCD.

I do have a meter that can connect to the computer and also I have the CBAII which is
what I have been using in the past for voltage measurements. The only problem is that
that system eats about 10ma of power from the system. I will look into what interface
my meter uses. I will look tonight what kind connection my meter uses. I know already
it would cost me another $80 for the device.

Finally, it would be nice to know what the voltages are on the batteries
after a one second “cool down” period disconnected completely from the
exciter, and whether they match the voltages on the batteries while they
are running the circuit. One could use an electrolytic capacitor to
keep the Fan circuit running while using reed relays to disconnect
battery chain completely (on both ends) from the Fan circuit for
measurement. This should stop the digit bobbling completely and allow
for one or two voltage measurements rather than a moving average
algorithm, also allowing for use of a less digit accurate meter. This may
be a necessity, if you want to use Groundloop's u'p based meter circuit.

That's a good point to ponder about. Well, I am a little bit far from that
still since I only got to the Tesla Switch so far and tonight will be my first
run.

Thanks for the advices,
Fausto.

[mscoffman]

@All;

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8090.msg#new

The above link points to the documentation on a PC
host computer interface based on ten common TTL
IC's that allows expansion to 80 bits on both input and
output. Software is users's responsibility as always.
Based on what I've promised.

A microcontroller and this interface are really interchangeable solutions
other than that it's very easy to archive data to a hard disk
on a host.

@mscoffman

I do have a meter that can connect to the computer and also I have the
CBAII which is what I have been using in the past for voltage
measurements. The only problem is that that system eats about 10ma of
power from the system. I will look into what interface my meter uses. I will
look tonight what kind connection my meter uses. I know already it would
cost me another $80 for the device.

I doubt that that it takes the 10ma from the voltage probes!
So an independent power supply for the meter seems doable.
This whole thing would only be done to provide a "scientific link"
to what you've already seen, so you could make one step at time
changes.

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The screen width info seems to be coming form the web board - the
initial messages to this thread!

:S:MarkSCoffman