Bedini SSG - self sustaining

[plengo]

I finally got my board up and running correctly. After a good soap and hot water cleaning this baby is working as designed.

Now my next step will be to setup my test again but this time having the ability to short the batteries as I wanted with plenty of more switches available for other ideas.

I will also use Groundloop's latest board that he shipped to me to try the Bedini many parallel batteries charging and switching as mscoffman proposed. So, two experiments to be running at the same time.

I will have to learn to program Groundloop's board since it has the extra MAX chip to measure the voltages.

@Magluvin

I am in the expectation of seeing how exactly is your setup connected. I have to study your video again in more details tonight.

Fausto.

[mscoffman]

Hey MS

Speaking of free electrons, I had seen a bedini circuit with a chassis or an earth gnd. I wonder if it was for that purpose.
Im looking at this in a different way than free or extra electrons added.

Magluvin

If you think of a Wimhurst Static Electric Generator...Electrons do have to travel
to ground when you absolutely want them to dump their energy, or they can sit
on an insulating disk as static electricity and build up. If you remember, some
of the behavior of the Adams motor having the CD charged with static electricity
would match some of the characteristics of what was seen, I think.

I am convinced that Bedini and Bedini Fan also use static electricity leaking into
the circuit to add energy. Static electricity is hard to instrument and so needs to
be considered like a "dark current" flowing perhaps in a different direction in
the circuit of interest. Plengo has mentioned something like this in one of his
original posts.

It would pay to watch these circuits carefully before leaving them to run
unattended for a long time and at least suppress clutter in the experimental
area. Something like this at modest energy levels with repeatabilty
would make for small but an idle FE device.

:S:MarkSCoffman 

[Magluvin]

Im not saying that there are not additional or a depletion of electrons ever, but Im not sure that it plays a big part in a pulse motor setup. Lets say we have a pulse motor sitting on a table, not running, now get out the E690 Electron Counter and run a check. Just kidding. =]  But if we had an E690, and it gave us a number, then we run the pulse motor, even if it gathered some external electrons, once we shut it down and let it sit, The E690 may measure more, but did those extra electrons add up to any substantial power toward our goal? Or is it just a bit of static?
Now in very high voltage setups, It is still just moving electrons from one place to another, and thats only if they want to take the path that you give them. But it is all still just circuitry. Whether its capacitance or conductance.
Lets use the E690 to measure the electrons in a capacitor, then charge the cap, will the E690 actually measure a higher tot of electrons in the cap? I would say that if the cap were floating in a vacuum and it recieved a static charge, as a whole, then something somewhere is missing some, and eventually, that something is going to want them back. So that something will take from others that are willing to give up theirs, and so on.
How many electrons could we take from the earth, send them to the moon, before the earth says it wants them back?  Bam!! Or how many absent electrons on earth would it take take to start seeing problems here on earth because of it?  Crazy aint it?

I did a test on my setup due to a brain fart that had me convinced that maybe my second stage is just pulling from the battery through both reeds and the first diode.
I ran the big dog coil, .9 ohm on a reed and bat alone, and I got over 300v, but the drain on my 2.5v was .5v, where in the full setup, the tot drop was about .04v running both coils and driving the rotor nice.  So there is some advantage to the full setup.  Also I ran the setup without the first coil and using both reeds as they were, and the results were not the same. The first diode was warm and the first stage cap had an opposite effect on whether it was large or small. In the original setup, the larger the cap, the less the reed would stick, the test setup wanted small caps to keep the reed from sticking.
So there is something interesting going on as a full setup. I was a bit worried thinking about it for a couple hours. I was starting to smell my foot before it got to my mouth.
But I feel better now.  The first coil is applying some advantage to driving the heavy second stage as compared to directly driving it from a battery.

Havnt drawn up the circuit yet, I will today.

Magluvin

[plengo]

Tonight I finally resumed the tests on my batteries using my 14 switch board.

It took me a long time to "reprogram" the baby using a totally different approach to time management. It was getting really complicated to control the timing of switching using conventional CPU cycles/assembler language via the cycles each and every instruction takes.

So I decided to use an old tricky for time and it is working extremely well. I can precisely know when a switch will happen in relation to other switches and still control far apart switching times. Pretty interesting process.

I also had great difficulty adjusting the code to the PIC16F690 since it has different memory mapping and many different internal REGISTERS and so on, but now I got it up and running and it was worthy every penny and effort into this board. THANKS a lot to Groundloop for his help and his first board (and second, and third , I lost count) and his initial programming into the PIC16F84a.

In my first 1/2 hour running the battery goes up in voltage. Not much but definitely going up. I have been watching a few other threads and it is kind of clicking into my mind the simillarity I see from them and this experiment of mine (check this thread out: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4753-space-time-energy-absorption-pump-2.html).

Fausto.

[plengo]

@Magluvin

I quickly created an experiment for your experiment using my switching board instead of a rotor and unfortunately I did not have much success. I kind of expected no success since I am not using a rotor neither magnets and neither know exactly what your circuit is. I am guessing here but it would be really helpful if you could give more details about your setup including the parts numbers and measurement (if possible).

Coils are incredible difficult to work with when one does not know the value since all the frequencies and resonances will be at play here in a not trivial way.

So, if you provide more info I will be more than glad to try to replicate this.

Fausto.