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Bedini SSG - self sustaining

Started by plengo, August 28, 2009, 08:04:34 PM

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plengo

Well, with my latest stupid failure in the hardware and not noticing I am frustrated and a little bit ashamed. How could I miss that? and worse, misinform everyone on it. Oh well, I guess it happens sometimes.

So, with my dear frustration and never ending desire to understand still what I have found since the beginning of this thread I started looking for that "cell" that could explain the arise in voltage on the batteries. I think I found something even more interesting and simpler than before and this time the transistor is NOT cooked.

It is as simple as an AV plug. Current is about 6 micro-amp. Voltage is increasing at about 0.001volt per minute on B2 and 0.001volt per 10 minutes on B1 . B1 is at 12.22 volts while B2 is at 10.57 (discharged).

Frequency is at the maximum my PIC can deliver for this board (I think around 20 mhz but I doubt it is that fast, most probably at about 1 mhz).

Switching is simply done by turning Q10 ON and OFF one instruction after the other with no delays anywhere.

I will let it run for a few days and than replace those batteries with other ones to confirm the effect.

This is so simple that one can create a simple oscilator to turn ON and OFF a transistor. No need for PIC controllers. An AV plug, unbelievable.



Fausto.


plengo

I promised to let the previous system running for a few days BUT I had another great idea. Why not let B1 not only help B2 get charged but also let B2 help B1 get charged. So......, here it goes.

Fausto.

gyulasun

Quote from: plengo on November 21, 2009, 06:29:54 PM

... and not noticing I am frustrated and a little bit ashamed. How could I miss that? and worse, misinform everyone on it. Oh well, I guess it happens sometimes.


Dear Fausto,

To err is human and a person who never makes mistakes is who never does anything. 

Re on you latest circuit: simple and interesting, and please let it run for a longer periode of time to get meaningful observations.

My opinion is that it is the non-linear chemical reactions happening inside the batteries that manifest as if extra energy were created, unfortunately.
And surely such pulsed currents can induce the reactions by their sudden appearance and disapperance (i.e. current switch-on and -off), Bedini always said overunity is in the batteries, not in his circuits charging them.

In your modified schematic above, I cannot see the 10uH coil, it is included in the working circuit, right?

As a first step with this AV plug circuit, it would seem more reasonable first not to make it a closed loop yet, I think one step at a time here, I believe.
But you are your own master of course.  :D ;)

Thanks / ciao
Gyula


plengo

Quote from: gyulasun on November 22, 2009, 08:25:09 AM
My opinion is that it is the non-linear chemical reactions happening inside the batteries that manifest as if extra energy were created, unfortunately.
And surely such pulsed currents can induce the reactions by their sudden appearance and disapperance (i.e. current switch-on and -off), Bedini always said overunity is in the batteries, not in his circuits charging them.

I totally agree with you on that one. I guess this weekend my test were all failures, even this last one I screw up when measuring and shorted the batteries changing the whole thing. Now I have to wait for them to rest their voltage and start again and that can take a whole day.

One thing that I am learning about pulsating batteries is that they tend to charge up pretty fast with those pulses but somehow later it seams that the energy they "create" from within is very soon "evaporated" out making the voltage lower again as if there was never a gain. Very interesting. That may explain one point that Bedini keep saying that just "Radiant Energy" will dry up the batteries so it is necessary to have some small current going into it during the charging.

Since I am using in the micro amps range I can conclude that small currents like this does not help the battery to "absorb" that extra energy that the chemicals create when they are "shaken".

If the Tesla battery switch is true I wonder how resonance plays a role here and how one can find that resonance. Another thing that come to me as an intuition about how the battery works is that I tend to see a battery as a coil and a capacitor (LC) in resonance all the time, therefore lots of current running from within and either we are taking the battery out of resonance and using its energy or we are putting out of resonance to the other degree level when we are charging the battery.

That is how I tend to see this effects since all I am doing is really pulsating the system, no current really and may be sometimes it hits the battery to the right time where the "out of tunning" or the internal LC goes to the right side of the degree of resonance (95 or 85 degrees if you understand my concepts being 90 degree being perfect resonance and therefore maximum current).

I am still not satisfied with my experiments since they all work at a certain point and than reverses. I am still looking to understand how those batteries can charge up.

Fausto.