Source of energy for TPU device may simply be picky absorption of EM radiation

[kmarinas86]

In this post: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4299.msg199128#msg199128

I had written the following....

It is clear from the operation of capacitors that a displacement current creates a magnetic field with the same polarity as current going the same direction.

When displacement current forms, a curl of the B-field is generated to which the magnetic moments of copper (a diamagnetic material) attempts to cancels out. Because such a B-field can be made of such a magnitude to domineer over the magnetic dipole moments among neighboring copper atoms, the subatomic particles of those copper atoms will attempt to align their magnetic moment dipole axes in helical configurations in contrast to their typical random configurations. The change of configuration actually consumes potential energy by the formation of "paratoroidic (magnetic) moments" of copper (an as-yet-unconfirmed paramagnetic analogue of the experimentally validated "ferrotordic (magnetic) moment").

See timeline on verification of ferrotorodicity: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=Hek&tbo=1&tbs=tl%3A1&q=ferrotoroidicity&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

By keeping the impedance of the back-spike larger (i.e. voltage higher and its current lower) than in the initial pulse, copper's reaction to the voltage back-spike can provide the same polarity of magnetic field as current going forwards. The back-voltage does dissipate after a while, and you are right when you say that, "This oscillation seems related to the length of the conductor and maybe other factors like self-inductance, self capacitance, insulation, wire diameter, etc."

So where does the energy come from to restore the potential energy lost via alignment of the paratoroidic (magnetic) moments? Certain frequencies of electromagnetic radiation get absorbed by the (PARAtoroidic) arrangements of magnetic moments in the copper atoms, in effect, restoring their potential energy. When some of the moments fall out of alignment, others will follow suit.

I do not see this a violation of any laws of thermodynamics. The 2nd law in particular says nothing about any "impossibility" of zones of decreasing entropy, nor is it disproven by the existence of self-organizing structures. Don't get me started on the 1st law, that is simply fact because we can always define a potential energy in reference to new energies discovered. And the 3rd law is about absolute zero....

The generation of frost in some failed operations of the Steven Mark TPU device can be explained by generation of excess magnetic fields. If you remember the fact that temperature is dependent on motion, it is clear that atoms locked in position as a result of mutual magnetic inductance have a lower temperature; this is obviously not the same as keeping a macroscopic object still! At some point, this temperature change can spur surrounding photons to make up the difference, restoring the atoms into their natural, random configuration.

Has anyone have good knowledge about the accounts of frosting during certain TPU runs? What regimes were they operated in these runs? How are they setup differently in more typical tpu situations where the coil gets very hot instead of very cold? Does anyone know about differences in the operating temperatures relative to different materials used?

[CTG Labs]

To my knowledge there has never been mention of any cooling effects by Steven Mark in anyway, only overheating issues preventing long run times.


Regards,

Dave.

[kmarinas86]

To my knowledge there has never been mention of any cooling effects by Steven Mark in anyway, only overheating issues preventing long run times.


Regards,

Dave.

Cold electricity could still be playing a role in the device's failure. It could involve the concentration of the heat in the collector coils through energy delivered by the control coils. Reducing the heat in the coils by attaching an impedance load may actually increase the phenomenon of cold electricity in the control coils, thereby increasing the difference in temperature between the control coils and the collector coils. While the phenomenon of cold electricity could cool the control coils, the collector coil may not be effective enough in converting that energy into work. Instead the coil ends up dying prematurely.

Phenomenon of cold electricity (illustration below):

[sparks]

   Nice post kmarinas86.

      Thermal energy is chaotic and any effort expended to create order within a chaotic ambient is rewarded with conversion of thermal energy to the desired form of energy or state of matter.  We clearly understand losses within an electrical system from invested energy conversion to ambient energy gain or heat losses.  Why then would not the opposite be possible.   I suspect in a spark gap there is conversion of ambient thermal energy into electrical energy.  By reproducing what occurs in a quenched spark gap in a larger ambient field or magnifying the spark gap action thermal energy to electrical energy is acheivable.  The vibrations associated with heated molecules and atoms whether produced by collisions or compression are a scource of photons.  By causing the electrons of the matter in question to act as photon absorbers and transmitters we are basically using the matter as a frequency converter.  This method has been used by man for thousands of years with the use of crystals to produce piezo and pyro electric generators.  The techniques again being rediscoverd as our nanotechnologies develop.  Just the electron exchange between nitrogen and oxygen in the field between two electrodes repeated at thousands of cycles per second explains Tesla's magnifying transmitter.  This energy gain from the thermal event in the gap is then magnified by decreasing the frequency and raising the amplitude of the waves or photon packets produced in the gap.

[giantkiller]

Most excelllant kudoes to the both of you! I have used this to resolve the operation of the GK4, it's heat and the chaotic energy output. The shockwaves were created and allowed in an uncontrolled manner and with not specific direction. My idea now is to put a diode inline with the outer most winding that is already there.
This also pertains to any other coils out there that burn internally or externally.

@sparks,
The suggestion of putting a steel winding bifilar with the copper was also advantagious in the pursuit of understanding. With the 12volt operation I was able to see a continuous stream of spikes at 5-6mghz with no PC crashes. And this is an incredibly easy setup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5KU_DgFd8s&feature=channel

Thanks again.

--giantkiller.

   Nice post kmarinas86.

      Thermal energy is chaotic and any effort expended to create order within a chaotic ambient is rewarded with conversion of thermal energy to the desired form of energy or state of matter.  We clearly understand losses within an electrical system from invested energy conversion to ambient energy gain or heat losses.  Why then would not the opposite be possible.   I suspect in a spark gap there is conversion of ambient thermal energy into electrical energy.  By reproducing what occurs in a quenched spark gap in a larger ambient field or magnifying the spark gap action thermal energy to electrical energy is acheivable.  The vibrations associated with heated molecules and atoms whether produced by collisions or compression are a scource of photons.  By causing the electrons of the matter in question to act as photon absorbers and transmitters we are basically using the matter as a frequency converter.  This method has been used by man for thousands of years with the use of crystals to produce piezo and pyro electric generators.  The techniques again being rediscoverd as our nanotechnologies develop.  Just the electron exchange between nitrogen and oxygen in the field between two electrodes repeated at thousands of cycles per second explains Tesla's magnifying transmitter.  This energy gain from the thermal event in the gap is then magnified by decreasing the frequency and raising the amplitude of the waves or photon packets produced in the gap.