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Has anyone heard how to replicate the John Kanzius salt water burn experiment?

Started by leeroyjenkinsii, September 06, 2009, 09:09:32 PM

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EMdevices

Somebody else has picked up this research, his name is Dr. RUSTOM ROY

http://www.rustumroy.com/

Browse that link and you will reach one of his papers on burning salt water.  He uses a frequency of 13.59 MHz, and about 300 watts.

http://www.rustumroy.com/Scans/Observations%20of%20polarized%20MRI%20vol%2012%20is%201.pdf

EM

onthecuttingedge2005

The problem with burning salt water is the disassociation of Chlorine into the atmosphere, Chlorine gas building up in the atmosphere might cause higher atmospheric corrosion problems and chlorine is a very very strong irritant for the lungs, eyes and mucous membranes.

I think it would cause problems if it went into mass production.

the project would have to eliminate the Salt from the water molecule.

chlorine would also rapidly corrode all parts that were not made inert to chlorine exposure.

Jerry :)

Farrah Day

Jerry, not sure what you're talking about with reference to financing the project. I have seen or heard nothing of investment opportunities.  After Kanzuius death, someone will surely have picked up and continued his work on the cancer research.

And as someone pointed out Professor R. Roy picked up on the saltwater burning phenomenon and continued experimenting. 

I've spoken to this guy, but he was not very forthcoming. Basically he just says keep checking out his web site for updates.

My key questions were:

Will any good electrolyte work or does it specifically need to be NaCl?

Is chlorine gas being evolved - if not do you know what gas or gases are?

He was very vague and did not answer any question specifically. I'm inclined to believe he will keep any new findings to himself until he devises a specific technology to make use of this phenomenon.

I know the power input is fairly irrelevant, as only a small proportion of the RF would be acting on a small test tube, and I'm not convinced it would provide OU. What is really interesting is, if hydrogen and oxygen (or chlorine) are being evolved, how are the ions exchanging charges without an exchange medium.  This is the real crux of the matter and why someone said it might be the most interesting discovery in the last 100 years. However, for this mean anything you have to understand how normal electrolysis works - then you will realise just how extraordinary this reaction appears.

QuoteThe problem with burning salt water is the disassociation of Chlorine into the atmosphere, Chlorine gas building up in the atmosphere might cause higher atmospheric corrosion problems and chlorine is a very very strong irritant for the lungs, eyes and mucous membranes.

I think it would cause problems if it went into mass production.

the project would have to eliminate the Salt from the water molecule.

chlorine would also rapidly corrode all parts that were not made inert to chlorine exposure.

What do you mean eliminate the salt from the water molecule? The salt is a free ion, the water molecule is... well a molecule or cluster of molecules.

Furthermore, I doubt you could eliminate the salt at all as this is likely the reason the reaction occurs in the first place. And, as I've pointed out, it has yet to be established if chlorine is actually evolving at all. This is far from standard electrolysis, so I wouldn't necessarily expect the same gases to be evolving.

You will notice too, a steadily burning flame - try to get that from you electrolyser!
Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"

onthecuttingedge2005

I think it needs to be placed in a gas analyzer to determine the Chlorine output of the reactions if any, I said what I said because it should be done to insure safety scientifically.

if the salt is truly remaining unchanged then I have no complaints but I have not heard of any documentation on the out gassing of the reaction using gas analyzers.

I don't mean by the human nose test, it has to be verified for enviromental saftey concerns. I don't want the whole world smelling like an over chlorinated swimming pool from +6 billion automobiles running on salt water inside 10 years.

Jerry :)

Cloxxki

Fascinating! And, it luckily made it to the news : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OklIm5a1Lc

Were the involved researchers contacted since? Surely, if they've come to their conclusions, they won't be able to sleep until they'v scaled this up, safely?