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Steven Marks secret

Started by otto, October 07, 2009, 12:26:21 AM

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forest

Quote from: Gobaga on December 09, 2009, 10:03:56 AM
In regards to the Ozone patent and associated circuit:

When the cap discharges through the primary coil (M), are the coils for the motor (D and F) are also connected to the power supply?  If so, this switches the HV from the capacitor (L) over the low voltage from the power supply.  What does this do?

IMHO when cap discharges power supply is shorted to motor coils but the problem is in commutator.You should see how complicated is that system.
There is at least 3 resonant circuits here and all dependent on each other.

Gobaga

Quote from: forest on December 09, 2009, 10:15:10 AM
IMHO when cap discharges power supply is shorted to motor coils but the problem is in commutator.You should see how complicated is that system.
There is at least 3 resonant circuits here and all dependent on each other.

In the patent, US568177, Tesla gives a very brief explanation of how it works.  He never mentions resonance and states that the frequency of the discharge current can be varied at will.  The primary (M) and the seocndary (N) probably are resonant to achieve very high potential, but I don't see why the rest of the circuit would be resonant. 

After reading the patent several times and making a few sketches to try and figure it out, the only thing I see that is interesting is if the HV from the capacitor (L) is switched into the low voltage circuit that drives the motor. 

forest

Quote from: Gobaga on December 09, 2009, 11:00:35 AM
In the patent, US568177, Tesla gives a very brief explanation of how it works.  He never mentions resonance and states that the frequency of the discharge current can be varied at will.  The primary (M) and the seocndary (N) probably are resonant to achieve very high potential, but I don't see why the rest of the circuit would be resonant. 

After reading the patent several times and making a few sketches to try and figure it out, the only thing I see that is interesting is if the HV from the capacitor (L) is switched into the low voltage circuit that drives the motor.

This is because you didn't read Tesla lectures,notes and newspapers articles.
Resonant circuits here:
1. Motor coils with capacitance of power supply wires in series
2. Motor coils + primary M with capacitor L in series
3. Capacitor L with primary M in parallel
4. Primary M with secondary N with capacitance plates P P

wattsup

Much of the ozone patent is analyzed and explained in this thread;
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3972.0

@Magluvin

I saw your video. Nice toys you have to play with but there is one thing I think that is wrong with your Don Smith style transformer.

Seems to me the primary wire gauge should be the thicker wire with fewer turns, and the secondary should be the finer wire with more turns. That will give you proper weight relationship. The primary wire should weigh the same as the secondary wire since if you are dealing with direct transfer the masses should be the same or near.

Mind you, this will give you greater flyback so get ready to catch it and it will give you much more secondary output.

But right now, I think your primary is only tickling the secondary when it should be hammering it hard. Or, for now, just make a new primary with thicker wire and keep the secondary as is.

Now I understand you are doing this with one 1.5 volt battery but if you every manage to find a nice coil that is about 140 ohms, you can then do some small testing of the ozone patent and watch voltages of 350 volts rise in one manual shorting. That coil would replace the motor coil in the ozone circuit.

Magluvin

Wattsup 
Thats my lil meter in my vids that popped a vessel to bemf. =] I have to send it in. If the case had screws or snapped together, Id take a look myself, but it is SEALED.
Thanks for the critique on the transformer. I did go Dons look, in a way, lets just say simple description. The idea of the primary in the center, air cores, and single layer windings intrigues me, as compared to what is commonly done.
The idea for me was that if the secondary is larger in awg vs the primary, and this is just an educated guess, that the larger wire would take on more advantage of the quick on, hv magnetic pulse, which the freq of that off to on time should be high, and be able to produce more current output  due to Skin Effect, because it has more skin. Just a guess. My Beeg coils, meaning larger awg wire in magluvin language, put out some serious current in bemf vs any of my thinner wire coils, yet they dont seemd to consume as much than expected according to their very low ohms, 0.14 ohm 3 in parallel. =0    =]
But I hear what you are saying and will take your advice. Thanks dude. =]
As you can tell, I have legitimate thoughts.
Gota go to work, Ill be back later, I hope we can continue this subject later if you dont mind, and good lookin out and thanks again.
Magluvin