Understanding electricity in the TPU.

[Mannix]

@wattsup
The real issue I have is that it is one thing to question but quite another to accuse a person of something in public.

You may see slight of hand in the video , which was not designed for public viewing.

Nor to show how to make a working tpu ..perhaps the oposite.
I see slight of mind in the explanations that must include some deception to be real and I take exception to that because you are offending a real person who has come foward if not as much as you would like .
Sure, the monkey diagram is not in your hands and if the inventor could chose ,may never be.
Please continue with your explanation by all means but could you please not attack the person with accusations . Surely you have to consider that you just MIGHT be wrong as you are about some very basics here.

I suggest that you use the sparse info that has been supplied rather than seek shadows in muddy videos.
by all means critisize that if it helps you and anybody else to make a tpu.
For some, the tpu will never be real and they will make it so 
For others they are having a go at least ..what else is there to do?

I have little that would be considered useful here , at this point

the stage  is yours
my silence is assured

[powerunlimited]

@wattsup,
on the side its real,test leads will carry one amp easily,why use 10,100 watt light bulbs.
If you used 5,150 watt bulbs,the voltage drop would be,if the unit could source it,830/5 or
166 volts across each light and might burn them out, SM is like a showman,con man more bulbs
more drama.Due to the nature of any free energy device no engineer would trust using the bulbs or

test equipment provided by SM,they would bring there own, if SM refused to let them do this then they would conclude that the tpu is fake.He may have used wire that has a much higher break down voltage than 600 volts.
On the its a fraud side,sealed lead acid batteries were used in the 1970'S,they can work in any

position there small enough and provide a lot of current,heres a link to one that could work

http://www.batterymart.com/p-12v-2ah-sealed-lead-acid-batteryf1.html


by hollowing out the raised base and the bottom you could fit a lot of batteries
the size of this battery is L 3.75 in,h 3.5in,w .75 in,he could have found a battery similar to

this one.The wash board effect, he glued small permanent magnets under the table in rows,an electro

magnet or electromagnets in the hollowed bottom board repels the magnets on the table,creating a series of bumps
when the tpu is moved forward.

I lean toward its real and I believe some are fake ,there maybe a size limitation

with this device,it can not be made too large or too small, thats why some are fake,more

showmanship to sell it.Nevertheless bring on your evidence!!! good work

[otto]

Yes, batteries are in the TPU!! A lot of batteries. I love them.

Hmmmm.... but how to hide them in the open TPU??? Hmmmm.....

Otto

PS: it seems that I have a lot to learn about batteries.

[guruji]

Hi E2matrix I liked that schematic.

[wattsup]

@otto

In the OTPU the device itself had a small battery to produce the output on the volt meter but the bulky lamps had hidden batteries to light the bulbs. very elementary.

@Loner

"In the actual "Engineering" report from an observing EE". It is normal practice that when you receive an EReport for any device, that the Engineer must be reachable to comment to interested parties. If this has not been done, then that report must be considered void or invalid. All such reports have a prerequisite that the Engineer must be able to confirm it is his report and you should be able to ask questions regarding certain values, procedures, etc. Especially if you are considering the report as a basis to allocate serious time and effort and money into further research. Otherwise what's the point.

@Mannix

I am not looking for your silence, on the contrary, the more members can discuss this question the more they will realize the difficult positions. OK, I get carried away sometimes on SM but consider what SM said to JD and compare that and you will see I am in the minor league indeed. But I will cut it out and suggest to other to keep this purely investigative.

Now I understand the video was not for public viewing because I doubt it very much that anyone in the private end would ever have gone to such extremes to find the flaws. The video was for some dumb investors. I understand. Also, intended or not, it did not seem to bother SM one bit since he came on the Forum with almost a Novel worth of additions. If he put all that into the fray, then it is all fair to analyze.

So now, if the videos were not intended for public, if the EE report cannot be corroborated, if the videos show so many "irregularities", then my natural question would be, where do we get all the impetus to spend so many years on the SM TPU question?

If you told me that the SM TPU, real or not, exemplifies a device that is soooooo above our present understanding that it is like a pinnacle that everyone shoots for, then I can understand that is has a purpose as a figurehead. A specific purpose. But then we can now longer use it as a functional example. That would mean all TPU ideas are from each originator and can all be just as valid.

What we need here is to not put all our eggs in SM TPUs. In order to move forward and succeed in the TPU realm of things, we have to put the TPU exactly where it belongs and leave ourselves room to expand into newer and more promising and hopefully more concrete directions. We neglect the realities as if the SM TPU saga has put a veil on our push for greater creativity. Greater creativity is what will be required to move forward and beyond. Reality of past mixed with the dream for a future is what will shape our destiny in the years to come.

I would totally enjoy continuing this TPU work but not if we have to re-iterate on things that at best in my view are some low key David Copperfield tricks. We have to break out of the mold to create a new reality and leave the past for the Pasterians. (not a word)

I will show more but you have to understand that I am not doing this, nor did I do this to get at you personally. In the end, if I can get a title of TPU-CSI, it will mean I am checking the backs of our members here who are definitely much smarter then me and who I know are following the shores of success but just need to unclutter their eyes to find a good landing point.

More to come..........