paul sprain = another victim of the money

[Omnibus]

without a coil and external energy with this construction. In his motor, rotor magnet moves from low density field to hi density field (like steel ball in SMOT experiments). But when the rotor magnet reaches the last stator magnet, in front of it density of field is lower then that behind it and the rotor magnet stops. To achive a closed loop without using external energy, he have to change the construction drasticaly. With this construction it is imposible.

That's correct. Sprain's motor utilizes the principle of SMOT but lacks its most important feature -- the interruption of the loop (magnetic loop) by gravity -- spontaneously, that is. He has to apply energy from without to overcome the sticky point. Now, that we have Snyder's experiment, Sprain's device is more or less obsolete.

[hartiberlin]

@Omnibus,
Synder?s motor will probablyput out ,
also if it will really work in a static frame,
only very low power levels of power.

Paul Sprain?s motor is much better in power output and
can deliver KiloWatts of power in pretty small devices !

So I think in this moment Paul Sprain?s motor leads the pack of
new inventions !

Regards, Stefan.

[Omnibus]

Stefan, with all due respect, I think Sprain?s and Snyder?s motors are incomparable in their importance. If what I see in Snyder?s video is a real effect, this is a revolution. For the first time in history something always thought impossible is directly demonstrated in flesh and blood ? the spontaneous production of energy from a conservative field. This is unheard of. You know that the mainstream science has always denied such a possibility. The ramifications will be enormous not only technologically but in our understanding of Nature as well. Be sure, if the effect is real much better engineering solutions will be found.

For the importance of inauspicious experiments such as Snyder?s recall the experiments by J.J Thompson or E. Rutherford at the Cavendish Lab in Cambridge or, say, A. Compton?s effect. What is the direct practical application of shooting alpha particles at an Au foil? Obviously, none. However, you, of course, know what revolution experiments such as those have caused. Here in Snyder?s experiment we?re facing something even more dramatic and with much greater far-reaching impact on science and technology.

I should also say that in my opinion, the real breakthrough was made by Fleischmann and Pons when they demonstrated the continuous production of excess energy in an undivided electrolysis cell and later with the invention of the SMOT by the Australian fellow Greg Watson when direct periodic production of excess energy is demonstrated for the first time in a mechanical device. I don?t mention Howard Johnson who probably should be credit as the pioneer but he has never directly shown his achievement for a peer-reviewed scrutiny. Same applies, unfortunately, to Mike Brady or anyone else who for one reason or another hasn?t been forthcoming to peer-review. Paul Sprain revealed his invention but, as I already said, its principle is nothing more than a SMOT but lacking the most important feature of SMOT ? sudden spontaneous disruption of the closed loop trajectory along the magnetic field due to gravitation.

[hartiberlin]

@Omnibus

before you break out he champagner
wait til Wesley L. Snyder can show it also running in a static stator.

Also the Paul Sprain concept is the only concept so far I see
it now, which will allow the production of huge output power
in a relatively small device.
The Snyder motor will be nice as a toy and for the
proof of concept, that pure magnetic motors could work
(if indeed he gets it to spin in a static stator),
but it will not have much output power, also not in a bigger
device.
So I still see the Sprain concept, where you gain the energy
from the 340 degree rotation for free as the best upscalable
concept to build usefull small devices with usefull output power
ranges.

Regards, Stefan.

[Omnibus]

before you break out he champagner
wait til Wesley L. Snyder can show it also running in a static stator.

OK, let?s wait and see. As a matter of fact, I don?t mind if the stator is not static, as long as he or someone else doesn?t hold it in his hand and as long as no energy is input from the outside.

As far as Sprain?s device it?s pretty intuitive and of far lesser overall importance than Snyder?s motor. I?m not at all concerned at this point of time about the low output of his motor. First, I?d like to see that it?s a real effect, then we?ll talk.