BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED

[broli]

Looks like the Bessler-rip-off-circus is in town. Why is it that every time the word Bessler is mentioned the same people come rushing in yelling "give to me me me"...

Circle don't fall for these tactics and only trust yourself, build it yourself, patent it yourself and sell it yourself. If these vultures get a hold of your idea you will be left with nothing.

[hartiberlin]

Hmm,
I got a complain,
that ABHammer and Ralph want to convince people not to share
their ideas here and should go the patent way...

Please people, this is an open source forum and
ideas should be shared without patenting.

If you want to go the patent way, which does not bring you money,
but just will cost you money and you need to pay expensive lawyers to
defend your patent versus big corporations, you should go away from
this forum and spend your cash just on the lawyers, but this will
not help the world...

So please don´t try to convince people to patent anything here.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[craZy]

Hmm,
I got a complain,
that ABHammer and Ralph want to convince people not to share
their ideas here and should go the patent way...

Please people, this is an open source forum and
ideas should be shared without patenting.

If you want to go the patent way, which does not bring you money,
but just will cost you money and you need to pay expensive lawyers to
defend your patent versus big corporations, you should go away from
this forum and spend your cash just on the lawyers, but this will
not help the world...

So please don´t try to convince people to patent anything here.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

I`m standing also for open source, you will never get a patent on a free energy device. Open sourcing can help everybody out and stick it to the man!!!

[AB Hammer]

Hmm,
I got a complain,
that ABHammer and Ralph want to convince people not to share
their ideas here and should go the patent way...

Please people, this is an open source forum and
ideas should be shared without patenting.

If you want to go the patent way, which does not bring you money,
but just will cost you money and you need to pay expensive lawyers to
defend your patent versus big corporations, you should go away from
this forum and spend your cash just on the lawyers, but this will
not help the world...

So please don´t try to convince people to patent anything here.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

Hello Stefan

So broli sent you a complaint? I am sure it is him for Ralph hasn't even posted. Now you know I am more on the fence here. I promote as soon as patent pending, then expose it for everyone to who can build to build. This way it is protected and exposed. broli has crossed the line here with liable slander. Some of the worst I have ever heard. Then he sent you a complaint to cause more trouble.

[rlortie]

@ Stefan,

Ralph Lortie here; please note the time stamp on this post.

I have just been made aware of this thread and its slanderous accusations.

For a man of your integrity and position, I am shocked  to see your post regarding alleged allegations regarding my character. You were however smart enough to compose it in a non-personal manner.

Broli is someone I ignore, which I believe any one with an IQ over 70 will do.

Consider the source and ignore him. His accusations have no basis, in fact I have not even posted on this topic. It was brought to my attention via a thread on Besslerwheel.com.

You wrote;

but this will not help the world...

Sorry but I disagree, patenting will help the world. Free sourcing ideas and innovation is the key provided by this forum, hopefully it will expedite the day we see such a machine.

Sharing ideas for collaborative mind merging and building is based on ones aptitude, empirical values,available resources, and mainly trust! It has nothing to do with patenting, that is at the inventors discretion.

I have and offer the skills, aptitude and resources to build designs for those that lack the requirements. I have offered this service on a confidential basis since 2002.  Having viewed many designs and built those which I felt questionable or viable. The results are returned to the submitter and it is at their discretion as to what they wish to do with it. I do not charge for this service and only ask for recognition and a monetary value on a contingency basis. No runner, no money, nothing lost but my time and resources.

You may recall a thread started on this forum by Peter Lindemann regarding his wheel design base on pendulums. It is now a known fact that I researched his design two years before he open sourced it here.   

For clarity I will attempt to explain why I believe patenting is the correct action to take;

If you literally free source the design, big money will jump on it, make a few changes and patent it. The energy will be sold to the consumer as "Green Renewable Energy" and end up paying more per kilowatt hour than they are paying for fossil fueled generation. I make this point using wind and solar as an example. I pay more for wind generated power than I do for hydro-electric, politics has managed to evade the acknowledgment that hydro is also a renewable power. For that I am thankful as I do not have to pay more per kilowatt block for wind power.   

The only consumer gaining an advantage due to free sourcing is those with skills and resource to build one for their own use. The average home owner will gain nothing except an increase in his monthly power bill. 

If the inventor were to patent the device thus keeping control he could sell for less, help others gain from the device and become the worlds most renown philanthropist.

Allegations placed on my character by broli are unfounded and open for legal dissertation under civil action known as a 'Tort'

I wish to thank all the members who have come to my defense over this issue.  My integrity stands and I will not let it falter.

Without realizing it, broli is getting the word out about me better than any advertising campaign I could imagine! :-)

Respectfully,

*Ralph Lortie
*note; no pseudonym required here.