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Scalar Wave - Energy

Started by mondainmax, November 02, 2009, 04:19:24 PM

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    I guess we must consider are all vacuums created equally?   Consider a perfect vacuum pump.  We start off with a closed chamber with atomspheric pressure in it.  Whatever that is,  Then we draw back the cylinder using as much force as we can.  Then we measure this altered space by its relation to atomospheric pressure.  What have we got left in the cylinder.  We not only have to draw back the cylinder we have to use force just to maintain the vacuum.  As we want a more perfect vacuum we need to apply more force and to maintain this increased vacuum again we must use more force.  So lets pin the crankarm.  The vacuum will start to drop as the pin begins to bend along with the cylinder walls caving in slowly the valve deforming etc.  Within this cylinder we now introduce two pieces of metal which are seperated by an insulator.  We then apply charge of unlike polarity.  It doesnt matter if it is positive negative just unlike polarization.  The plates fly towards each other.  Causing two vacated places where there was once very little vacuum because the plates were of mass not vacuum.  The plates had pressure.  In fact many many orders of atmospheric pressure would be needed to alter the pressure exerted in these plates.  We are now playing with the scaler vacuum field within the cylinder. Does the piston head respond to the plate movements?  If the plate movement is lined up with the cylinder head doesnt it instantly feel the ivacuum fluctuation.  The holding pin bending  exactly in time with the movement of the plates.  No wavelength no waiting for propogation just instantaneous information as to where the plates are.
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@ Loner

Wow. You cover so much in one post.

As you know, light travels about 1 foot in a nanosecond. Take a wire that is 20 feet long and feed it with a 200 MHz square wave from a signal generator at one end and terminate the other end with 50 ohms.  Use a dual trace scope with one probe at the start of the wire and move the other probe along the wire. You should see the rise of the pulses in the two channels separating at about one nanosecond for each foot the probes are separated. At least that is the kind of results I got when I tried this. I spent many years making delay lines and this is exactly what they would do. The longer the wire is, the longer the signal is delayed getting from one end to the other. I also used taps along the lines for different time delays. All worked according to theory. So, what is happening with the spark gaps. I am going to have to take a guess here. The 3 gaps are like 3 capacitors in series. When a voltage is applied across the 3 capacitors in series, electrons accumulate on the plate of the capacitor at the negative terminal and electrons are removed from the plate at the positive terminal. When the electrons build up at the negative plate they push electrons on the other plate of that capacitor onto one of the plates of the center capacitor. And likewise, the removal of electrons from the positive terminal capacitor plate will pull electrons onto the other plate of that capacitor from the center capacitor. So electrons "effective;y" move from the plate of the capacitor at the negative terminal connected to the center capacitor to the plate of the capacitor at the positive terminal that is connected to the center capacitor. I hope you can follow all of that. It is just a case of electrons will always move as far apart from each other as they can. So, now where are the electrons? They are on the plates of the end capacitors (gaps). As the voltage builds up it will jump where there is the greatest difference in electrons on the plates (gaps) which is the end capacitors (gaps).

Holes are tricky. I got A's in two semesters of graduate level semiconductor classes. And I still can not give you a better explanation than that they are just places where the electrons are missing. When the crystals are made it is done in a way that does not produce as many electrons as are needed to balance the charge in all of the molecules. The crystal is a semiconductor which means that the electrons can move about. The result is that the molecules compete with each other for the electrons and some of them do not get any (there is a game where there is not enough chairs for everybody and someone ends up without a chair - it is sort of like that).

Yep. Electrons only move at a few cm per second in a wire. But the SIGNAL moves at the speed of light. Use your balls in tube. Paint one ball red and put it in at the start of the tube. Now push another ball into the tube. Bingo. A ball comes out the other end as soon as you push a new ball in (assuming the tube is full). But the red ball has only move the length of one ball.

I do not know anything about scalar waves. That is what I am hoping you can teach me about. Or at least share what you do know.

xee2

@ Loner

I think a better explanation for the spark gaps is as follows. The center capacitor has the same amount of charge on both plates to start with because it starts with no voltage charge on it. The other two capacitors prevent any charge from being added to either side of the center capacitor because a DC current can not flow through a capacitor. When voltages are applied to to outer capacitors the charges are rearrange in the wires attached to the center capacitor, but there is still always the same total amount of charge on both sides of the center capacitor since none can be added to either side. Since current is the flow of charge, and since sparks require current, there can not be any spark across the center capacitor because there is no charge difference on its plates to produce the current. There is no charge difference on the plates of the center capacitor until charge is added to one side or the other by a spark across one of the outer capacitors. When this happens, then a spark across the center capacitor is possible.

BEP

Quote from: Loner on January 30, 2010, 11:32:20 PM

What you now have is three spark gaps, and what I always thought and assumed  was the gaps would fire 1,2,3 in that order.  Seems like that's the only way it could work, right?  Unfortunately for me, and it still bothers me to this day, is that the end gaps fire first, at the same time, and the center gap fires a little later.


Since there are already so may theories on why this happens....

If you step out of the box for a moment try this perspective...

1. Charge, and all the results of charge and its movement are properties of space.
2. This experiment provides examples of two things:
     a) how easy it is for results to be misinterpreted
     b) a prime example of LEM motion (yes, 'wave' is not a good word here)
3.  TEM cannot exist without LEM but LEM can exist without TEM.
4.  LEM current and voltage are always in-phase.
5.  Current does not flow at the ends first. No more than magnetic field lines exist without adding some iron filings.
6.  'c' is a constant and matter cannot exceed 'c' but changes in the properties of space can.

Back to your box now  :D



BEP

I like Xee's second explanation best. Change the spark gaps to caps for an easier, lower voltage test. Apply a short pulse instead of using the switching of the gap.  I'll bet the results are the same.

The three gap test wasn't so much a test of how current flowed as it was for how switches switch.