Purple neon flash with separate coil form on same core (Bedini SSG)

[Zooty]

Hi all, i just wanted to show this interesting effect because the idea has been playing on my mind for a while. Today i decided to put it to the test and it works pretty well. We know that when the magnetic field collapses around the coil, a high voltage spike is created. To me this is like a normal magnetic field cutting the coil producing voltage but much much faster hence no real current but much higher voltage almost like time compressing the event. I wondered weather putting another coil inside this field collapse would create the additional spikes without affecting the strength of the spike on the bedini coil and im pretty sure this is the case. What i have done is created a new core with the same type welding rods but twice as long so that i can fit another separate coil behind the bedini coil a la Fusion Chip. I have this second coil attached directly to a neon bulb. For now i just short the coil repeatedly while the unit is running.. most of the time you see an orange flash which means the coil is being shorted when a magnet is TDC.. This is not what we want to do as that is situation draws more from the primary just like a generator and causes drag. When i manage to short this coil during the field collapse just after TDC, the purple flash appears. I have included a pic of the coil setup and a small video clip to show the effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEosB9OCFOA

The purple flashing effect becomes harder to reproduce the more you do it. After replacing the neon with a new one, the effect is back. The contacts inside the bulb get darker the more it flashes. Maybe resistance is building up on the contacts suppressing the effect. It looks as if the purple flash is an arc between the contacts inside the bulb which would make sense if it is very high voltage. Nonetheless, the effect is there only after TDC. Also, Orange/Red from the normal bulb operation plus Blue/Green arc should give purple.

*UPDATE*

After playing around i can confirm that when the purple flash happens, the output across the diode in the bedini circuit going to the charging battery is not affected. As an indication, i am measuring the voltage across the diode to the charging battery and its around 3 volts above the battery. When i short the coil at the wrong time, the voltage across the diode drops but when i do it and get the purple flash, the voltage either stays the same or drops by 0.01 volts. I am in the process of building something to transfer this new spike to the primary side. Update coming soon

[zapjosh]

Very one has to see this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6gaN8gRs5A

[e2matrix]

Very one has to see this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6gaN8gRs5A

Maybe you would like to start a message thread on this rather than posting it in multiple and somewhat unrelated threads.  Are you the builder of this device?
It appears to be a duplicate of one built a couple years ago by another person and I did think it held good potential but it seemed nothing much came of it.  I know skywater123 on EF was working on a duplicate.

  Sorry to be off topic here Zooty.  What you have is very interesting.  Look forward to more.  Last time I worked on my Bedini SSG I had it running about 30 minutes charging another battery and the main battery lost less than 0.01 volts (as far out as my meter reads) using a small 12 volt Nicad pack for a hand drill.
 

[wings]

Hi all, i just wanted to show this interesting effect because the idea has been playing on my mind for a while. Today i decided to put it to the test and it works pretty well. We know that when the magnetic field collapses around the coil, a high voltage spike is created. To me this is like a normal magnetic field cutting the coil producing voltage but much much faster hence no real current but much higher voltage almost like time compressing the event. I wondered weather putting another coil inside this field collapse would create the additional spikes without affecting the strength of the spike on the bedini coil and im pretty sure this is the case. What i have done is created a new core with the same type welding rods but twice as long so that i can fit another separate coil behind the bedini coil a la Fusion Chip. I have this second coil attached directly to a neon bulb. For now i just short the coil repeatedly while the unit is running.. most of the time you see an orange flash which means the coil is being shorted when a magnet is TDC.. This is not what we want to do as that is situation draws more from the primary just like a generator and causes drag. When i manage to short this coil during the field collapse just after TDC, the purple flash appears. I have included a pic of the coil setup and a small video clip to show the effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEosB9OCFOA

The purple flashing effect becomes harder to reproduce the more you do it. After replacing the neon with a new one, the effect is back. The contacts inside the bulb get darker the more it flashes. Maybe resistance is building up on the contacts suppressing the effect. It looks as if the purple flash is an arc between the contacts inside the bulb which would make sense if it is very high voltage. Nonetheless, the effect is there only after TDC. Also, Orange/Red from the normal bulb operation plus Blue/Green arc should give purple.

*UPDATE*

After playing around i can confirm that when the purple flash happens, the output across the diode in the bedini circuit going to the charging battery is not affected. As an indication, i am measuring the voltage across the diode to the charging battery and its around 3 volts above the battery. When i short the coil at the wrong time, the voltage across the diode drops but when i do it and get the purple flash, the voltage either stays the same or drops by 0.01 volts. I am in the process of building something to transfer this new spike to the primary side. Update coming soon

interesting shorting circuit , adding a capacitor in series to prevent neon bulb damage