Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

[poynt99]

Hey Gobaga, it's time we had a board like this here at OU. Stefan agreed it was a good idea, so here we are.

Obviously the Ainslie device will be the first, as it is fresh in the minds of many. It's unfortunate actually, that the AT (Ainslie Team) is poised to prematurely submit this paper. Had they the sense to pause, listen, and try the many proposed solutions/improvements I (and others) have suggested along the way in the other thread, they could save themselves much embarrassment. There is little to no chance that any paper based on the erroneous data they have acquired thus far will be accepted by anyone that has any merit in the industry. Not only the poor data itself, but the poor measurement techniques as well will be quite evident to any respectable engineer that may review the paper. They've been more than duly advised and made aware of the deficiencies in both the data and the method being used to acquire it. All the diagrams and explanations required are there for the taking, so there is no excuse really for what is sure to transpire, but alas, one can only lead a horse to water as the saying goes.

In the mean time, and as time permits, I will be putting together a more formal exposition of the problem analysis and solutions for this particular apparatus.

Let's try to keep things on topic, but have fun while we're at it. This will be an extremely useful topic for those that could use a good dose of guidance (such as the AT) in order that they be properly prepared before making any claims of OU and such.

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[MileHigh]

Hi Poynt,

To get serious, I read Grumpy's link and it was a good read and I learned a few things.  They mention using a light bulb and its perceived brightness as a way of comparing power levels.  It is worth adding that a lot of people work with LEDs, and LEDs are not the same as a burning light bulb filament.  Human visual perception comes into play with LEDs and perhaps also for very tiny light bulb filaments.  LEDs can switch on and off much more quickly than a light bulb filament.   An LED that flashes briefly and brightly above the human "flicker" threshold frequency can appear to be brighter than a LED that is dissipating pure DC power.

Most eight-segment LED numeric displays are actually scanned so they briefly flash at about 60 Hertz.   This is done to save power while having the same apparent brightness.

On the "fun" side if you were a little proto-nerd like me, starting as a child you were using your eyes as a built-in scope.  You took a calculator with a red LED display into the darkness and then looked at the display as you swept your eyes from right to left at a constant speed.  By doing that you create a "scope trace" across your retina and can easily see that the calculator display is flashing.

MileHigh

[poynt99]

Good observations about the LED's MileHigh.

I'm not even too crazy about the light bulb method myself, as it can be quite subjective, but it can do in a pinch and to get a ballpark comparison.

I like the link Gobaga posted at the other thread. It's to Hal Puthoff's site, ETI. If the AT is serious about their claims and don't trust a third party group such as ourselves to test it, they should submit the device to Hal's group for scrutiny.

Here it is again: http://www.earthtech.org/about/index.html

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[PaulLowrance]

A little something Grumpy passed along...

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/test-pm.htm

General interest pertaining to many different areas of FE research, including the Ainslie device.

In particular from the above article, this sums things up quite succinctly:

The clear implication is that perpetual motion promoters simply don't know how to do energy, power, and efficiency measurements properly (or don't want to).

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I would agree that a lot of people in the FE community don't do proper measurements, but there are people in the "free energy" community that know how to take proper measurements who are claiming > COP 1.

For example the companies that are working on cold fusion. Also I'm working with scientists on highly shielded diodes & piezos that are producing DC power. A EE, by  profession, is working on the piezo research where he purchased a piezo, shielded it, and saw the the piezo produce DC power. I have placed a piezo element (Radio shack part # 273-073) inside a thick Hammond Al diecast chassis that was covered in a 2 ft diameter layer of thermal insulation that produced DC current for over a month. It was still producing DC current, but I had to stop the experiment to do other experiments.

Paul

[0c]

Just a little reading material to help get this thread started:

http://www.earthtech.org/experiments/Hathaway_Nightmare_List.pdf