Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor

[FredWalter]

The gravity machine is only 48 in. in dia.

In a previous article you said:

The one I have is only about 24In. in dia.

Can I assume it is 48 inches in diameter (and you meant to say 24 inches in radius)?

It light two lite bulbs that use 2 amps a pice at 24 cvdc.  I think that is around 96 watts.

Have you measured the power using an amp meter, and the voltage using a volt meter?

The power it takes to get a bulb to start producing light is less than the power it takes to get a bulb to be really bright. The only way to know for sure how much power is being produced is to measure it.

If your device is putting out 96 watts continuously then that is incredible. If the costs can be brought down then there is a market for this type of motor. Aside from electrical generation, the motor itself can be used to power things.

Now what you need to understand is it took me over two months at over 12 hours a day to build this thing.  I am sure that if it were put into production it would cost alot less and would be faster to build.  Just like your windmill.

The windmills that I'm referring to are homemade. $6000 is approximately what the materials cost for a 20' windmill put up onto a tower. That price doesn't take into account the amount of labour it takes to make all the parts, and put them together.

Does your gravity wheel make use of your magnetic valve?

Here's how you can make money off your gravity wheel:
1) sell plans
2) sell parts to people who have purchased your plans
3) sell motors, once you've figured out how to bring their cost down

The nice thing about (1) (selling plans) is that the up-front costs are minimal for you.

The thing about (2) is that you can ask for payment up-front, and then go buy the materials and make the parts. (I'm assuming here that you can figure out how to reduce the amount of time it takes to make the parts, so that you can make the parts as you get orders.)

I have no idea how much money you'd make. But you would make something, versus the nothing that you make if you keep it a secret.

[lwh]

Jack, yeah, I'm stupid, but you get that.

So here's another way of looking at it. 

Wait and see what happens with the current patents.  They'll either be passed and you end up with a lot of money, or they'll be blocked and you might at least get enough money to satisfy your investors. 

If your current patents get passed then you can also patent the gravity device and get even more money. 

If the current patents get blocked then the patent route really isn't an option for the other device either (If your current patents get stopped,then wouldn't your other device get stopped too if you tried to patent it?) and you'll have to look into some other means of trying to make money off of it rather than patenting it.

So, again, wait and see what happens with the current patents, (even though it could mean the world losing access to the technology you've been working on), as that will make it clearer what to do with the other device.

In the meantime, look into what those other means of making money off the unpatented device might be, at the risk of finding out there is a way that could have been applied to your current patent-pending technology.

Also, while you're waiting, consider setting something up whereby all your knowledge, not just your built devices, will be released to the world should you die unexpectedly.  I really doubt this will inspire anyone to knock you off so the the info gets released, but it could thwart the plans of those who may want to stop your knowledge getting out at all.  It's also a fact that people have untimely accidents or die unexpectedly of natural causes, so why risk taking all that knowledge with you?

Les.   

[hartiberlin]

Hi All,
patents are useless until you will find a company,
that likes your patent and will pay you royalities to produce the
patented devices !

But many things can go wrong :

Company does not want to pay royalities and
just copies your ideas and then makes their own advanced
patents of it by changing a few minor things..
So you have to pay to fight against all their patent lawyers.
Do you still have the money for this fight ?

So you did not only pay for your patent, but now you have to
fight for it in court, which will bring the cost up again,
and you did not have made any money from it yet...

So you see, patenting can be very stressful and costly
and it is a real question if you ever at all will
get paid...

Regards, Stefan.

[idnick]

Amen Stefan.  I couldn't have said it better.   It's the American way ya know. Everything revolves around a dollar(s)

Dave

[JackH]

Hello All,