Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor

[Liberty]

I am sure Jack will get his patent, for 2 reasons:

1) Jack's design is sufficiently different from Flynn's:
a) Jack uses only one magnet, Flynn uses two
b) Jack uses one coil that surrounds the magnet, Flynn's uses 2 coils, and they don't surround the magnet

The end results, if both were put into black boxes, would be very similar. As far as the overall efficiency of each, I still need to go do some simulations with either FEMM or Ansoft Maxwell SV. It will be interesting to see if one comes out ahead, or if they are dead even.

2) Patents do little or nothing in protecting intellectual property rights of the owner, and patents that are so similar to each other are being granted every day. IMO, patents are a waste of time, effort, money, stress and lawsuits.

All the same, I wish you luck Jack.

z_p_e

Well, what you left, begs to have the question asked:  How do you protect Intellectual Property Rights then?  With lawsuits?

[Drak]

a) Jack uses only one magnet, Flynn uses two
b) Jack uses one coil that surrounds the magnet, Flynn's uses 2 coils, and they don't surround the magnet

  Also, it seems to me by adding more power input to a Flynn built motor will not increase the output. Do the same with a motor built by Jacks design and your output should increase. The extra input will not be wasted as it would with a Flynn device.

Speed control for Flynn: Timing (Oscillation)
Speed control for Jack: Timing and/or Extra power

  I also think it would be easier to build a motor using Jacks design rather then Flynns.

  Just my thoughts.

Drak

[Light]

I've made simple Jack's valve just to see how does it work - magnet 3/4x3/4, bushing coil 11/5x3/4, blocks from mild soft steel.

With no power applied the side block jumps from distance of 1/8, with power applied - from 5/8. It means flux increased about 4-times (square root of distance). And when energised it's impossible to pull it apart - attraction so strong.

But, when power is off the side block still under big attraction of left magnetisation. Besides, coil with a core without the magnet do almost the same job, plus very little residual magnetisation.
Needa lots of practice to get a "golden middle"...

Respect, Jack, you found it. But how you managed to do it mechanically only?...

[z_p_e]

This could be a whole new topic but...

It doesn't even get to the lawsuit stage. IPR can not be protected, and in fact if you think about it, the existence of a patent "system" even makes it easier for one's ideas to be "stolen". Someone will always "improve" on your idea, or change it sufficiently to merit the issuance of a patent that effectively "supersedes" yours. It is futile to try and protect your intellectual property. Lawsuits just get ugly, and there are no guarantees, either way.

A better concept in my opinion, is once you have implemented your idea into a solid, repeatable working prototype, there are two immediate approaches as to how one can proceed:

1) Establish an incorporation, and begin developing the item as a marketable product. Yes this takes money, but so does starting almost any business. You may also try to find some investors that a) do not want control for your idea, and b) that do not require you to have a patent before they will fund you. Once you have established a modest revenue from your business, you then have the option of widely disclosing the concept or idea to the public domain, thereby quashing the possibility of it being patented by anyone else. You still get credit for the idea/concept/design, and at the same time, you have a huge head start on anyone that may choose to be competition. An analogy might be similar to Apple, with the iPod. There are others that do similar things, but they are NOT an iPod. It is a win/win situation, you benefit from your effort, and at the same time, you have given the idea to mankind for it and the earth to benefit.

2) Fully disclose your idea to the Free Energy community. It certainly is large enough all over the world now that your name will go down in history as the originator, and there would most likely be benefits that would come along the way. Of course this approach also negates the possbility of the idea being patented by anyone else (a good thing), as it would now be in the public domain.

Perhaps with approach 1) or 2), we could finally move on from being so dependant on oil, and get on with producing clean free energy. Too many FE inventions have been lost, buried, bought off, suppressed, ridiculed, all in the name of capitalism, and the idea of patents and secrecy, certainly seem to play a role in propagating this on-going phenomenum.

You may choose to never disclose your idea to anyone, and this is the only effective way to protect your intellectual property. However, you will not benefit much from this approach, and certainly there will be no benefit to anyone else either.

z_p_e

[Elvis Oswald]

What do you think would happen if you used this valve as a transformer?