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Overunity Machines Forum



Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor

Started by JackH, March 10, 2006, 11:58:55 PM

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Craigy

Jack ,

i have been thinking about your valve, do you think it possible that you could activate it without the Electromagnet and the 8 watts input?

I am tempted to try an experiment on a small scale, with 1/4 inch neos encapsulated in steel, i am curious to know if you think that the valve could be activated via another, larger neo.?
Any concepts or ideas expressed in this post are intended for the public domain. Free licence is given to reproduce and or modify provided it is for non-profit use. I don't want money, I want overunity!!

JackH


acp

Hi Gyulasun,

QuoteAnd do NOT compare this to the second picture when you replaced the magnet with a similar sized iron core!
Why? Because with the iron core in place you created a magnetic path much more flux conductive than in any of the other cases: the iron core has got a permeability much higher than either the permanent magnet or the air, so you created an electromagnet with more iron core volume than in the other two cases, ok?

Yes, but all we are interested in is if this valve has a use. Think about it, If we can build an electromagnet(using the same power to the coils as the valve) of the same dimensions as the valve  and get the same effect, the valve is not more efficient than an electromagnet. in which case overunity is highly unlikely.

In other words, imagine you have an electromagnet, and you remove a portion of the core and replace it with a magnet, and then find it functions exactly the same as before with no increase in efficiency or useability, why would you bother to insert the magnet.  What I'm interested in is, if what has been shown in the sims is also true in real life.

regards

Albert

Honk

Hello guys.

How do you calculate the strength of the magnetic field in a coil?

Suppose you wind a coil 10 turns at 0.01 ohms resistance and run
31.6 amps through the coil which gives you 10 watts.
Will the magnetic field be just as strong as if you had a coil
with 1000 turns at 1 ohm and run 3.16 amps throung it = 10W

It is the same 10 watts but will the increased turns give stronger magnetic field?

I'm asking this because the low turn coil will be a low inductance coil,
which has greatly reduced delay time when activating the magnetic field.
Magnet Power equals Clean Power

acp

Amp turns ( Amps*number of turns)defines how strong the field will be, so your first example gives 316 Amp turns and the second 3160 Amp turns, theoretically the second is 10 times stronger. Practically though there is an optimum for all these parameters, because the closeness of the turns to the core has an effect, the further away the turns the less effect, so simply increasing the number of turns doesn't work after a certain point.

regards

Albert