Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor

[hartiberlin]

Hi,
I wanted to add,
that just using an iron core versus using magnets is not the same thing.

The iron core has a much higher MuyR factor, so the inductance L of the
circuit is much higher and so the current needs a much longer time to build
up in this electromagnet and thus , it can not make fast RPMs,
cause then the magnetic flux is very low, cause it does not reach the
needed current level .

Otherwise a neodym magnet has a very low MuyR factor
so its inductance is low and thus the current can much faster rise
to the needed level and we can have a much faster RPM ( revolutions per minute
rotation speed) and thus more output torque power...

So the user, who claimed, one could just use an iron core is not right.

Regards, Stefan.

[JackH]

Hello Honk,

[Honk]

The iron core has a much higher MuyR factor, so the inductance L of the
circuit is much higher and so the current needs a much longer time to build
up in this electromagnet and thus , it can not make fast RPMs,
cause then the magnetic flux is very low, cause it does not reach the
needed current level .

But I'm planning to use a laminated silicon steel core. Not iron.
What do you think about the MuyR factor of non oriented silicon steel?

Otherwise a neodym magnet has a very low MuyR factor
so its inductance is low and thus the current can much faster rise
to the needed level and we can have a much faster RPM ( revolutions per minute
rotation speed) and thus more output torque power...

It's not possible to to use a plain magnet as core in this type of
motor, because the magnet valve does not shift flux polarity.
But an electro magnet valve is possible, but it will be surrounded
by silicon steel just to make it function right.
And this takes us back to my first question, the MuyR factor of silicon steel?

[hartiberlin]

Hi Honk,
how high is the MuyR factor of silicon steel ?
Probably in the 100000 , right?

The MuyR Factor of Neodym or Ferrite magnets are only in the
10 to 100s, when I remember correctly, so there will
be at least a faster factor of 100 to 1000 difference in the
current ampere buildup inside the coil around the magnet !

[hartiberlin]

@Jack,

too bad to hear the patent office is playing "tricks" with you.

Don?t we hear this always, if something really important wants to be
patented ?

That is why we over here seek for open source publishing,
so it can not get suppressed.

Jack, if you get your motor to work in selfrunning mode,
showing this will give you enough money for the rest of
your life, also if you will fully publish it all.

You can just life of your famousity then.

What have you already paid for patent attorneys and
patent fees ? Probably a few thousands US$ , right ?

You could have avoided all these costs... and
now don?t have any stress anymore...

Regards, Stefan.