Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits

[innovation_station]

Did anybody note the iron filings in oil art piece I posted somewhere. It is just like some of those shots.
It was sort of like the rug symbols... bo a lot like them.
j

he sure is a smart guy ... 

altho i have an explanation of the proper use of this  not quite like ag...  and   this is simple ... 

first you must understand spins..  that is the secreat of the univirse  this is held on high through ALL RELIGONS!  oops  ..  the R word .. yikes  i feel your ora curl up lol

no worries..    what this is ...  is infact ...  what all is made of ...  now some things i have come to on conculisions ...  have NEVER BEEN TOLD!     

subatomic ballanced gyroscopic particle..  it is an effect of spinn...

so if i built a spin seperator ...  i can take you apart by your spinns .. and reconnect you some where else ... 

this is a transportor  .. and teleportors are diffrent!  they do the same thing ..   i beleave the  but operate diffrently .. 

transportor i think is a 2 way device ..  so  when you understand creation you can do things you thought were magic ...  there not ...  it is darn simple .. 

the rodin coil is a teleportor ...  agin it most likely needs 2 coils ... there for is 2 way ..  but the rodin coil has many reconnects!  hence it is a multi destonation device  basically you make tunnels... that join the devices ..   depending on what you are sending choose the fire freq ... 

it is possible this is done in 1 smak...  too  i would need to study it more to make it work properly ...

i can easly lay our how it works why it is possible ...  but the operation freqs of such a unit i have no idea ..

the secreat is disclosed in this post but  you dont have eyes to see it ..   

tesla was facionated with counter rotating feilds ..     



ist

[jeanna]

I agree.
The tricky part is we have not made one yet.

Did you ever see the video about carr?

Carr was a student/acolyte of tesla who built a spaceship.

If you go to the project camelot, you can find rick ryan and there is an interview of him where he describes being in this spaceship and how the thing got taken from carr just as it had been taken from tesla.
here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfM23rAZTSQ

We are now entering the time when it is going to happen anyway.

enjoy these wonderful dreams and dream hard!!
ist, did you ever watch anything disappear with your rodin coil?
jeanna

[innovation_station]

i never built it ...  i just see how the crap works .. for whatever reason ...

i could build 1   but i like teslas cone better ... 

it can be split in 2

teslas .. as a 1 way jump .. 

because of 369

ist!

naw this comes into my mind ..  ds did it for me for the transportor bout 15 of his words it hit me hard...

  darn near fell out of my chair .. 

that is a good video ..  just finished watching it ..

i can draw conculsions on the ship easly ...

isis wand 

it is a sphere ...  he said there was a laser style light .. from the bottom ...  what quartz?  was it

i draw this conculsion based upon the posted video at a 1 time listen ... never herd of carr  but i bet he is back too .. he just dont know it ..   

light sets up resonance in the ball ... i have no idea how it was porpelled .. or floated sclar ?

but it is a con link.. device .. he seems really cool MR RING

i think when you acheive resonance in a perfect sphere things ocour  i do not understand this yet to think to talk of that ..

sure is a mind melter for humans ..

how ever a few books wiggled there way are way a while ago...  that do go into some detail on such things ... 

ps  you need an engery belt to remember  i have herd 1 could be made avabil for study 

i declined some time ago ...  i will make the request ... im wondering if i dont need one... 


here is some thing else i have been seeing thease clear dots for years ...  i never knew what they were...  till today i made em dance ..  i think im begining to see 4d ....  can this be the case ...

it is like perhaps tacions or fireflys ... i can i think control them by mind power ...  they apear tiny but and seam close but they may in fact be far ... i have no explanation for this ... 

you can visuzlize them a like a tiny round rain drop that have no set pattern they follow .. the go every where  i though may be gravitios .. but dont think so   many times they start out as 1 and seprate and kinda skipp ..  btw no im not high on drugs! 

short and long ... i see many more now and they dance as a gyro ...  many make 1 oddest thing ..

i will expairment tommorow as i think my stuff got turned on 

prior to yesterday i never ever saw them act  with system ...

this is infact how and why JESUS could walk on water ...  this goes deep .. and sure i have gaind some but not all understandings...  i beleave with the t sheild ...   many things are possible ...



now if im now who i think i am why have i solved all i have ?  with not so much effort?

[Pirate88179]

I'm not interested in bashing folks Bill, but please tell me if in your opinion that is what I have done in my posts here?

I have questioned the evidence or proof and perhaps the full understanding by folks of what the JT really does, but I do not believe I have bashed anyone here.

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My point was this...it appeared that a small group of folks kept asking the same questions, which Gadget had answered previously, but the same questions, or similar ones, kept being asked.

That's not OU.  You don't know what OU is.  How do you know it is OU?  Did you measure the input and the output?  Charging a cap is not OU.  What was your battery charge before you started?  And on and on and on.

It is not like Gadget was ignoring these questions...he answered them as best he could.  It just got to the point where the same questions were being asked, and then answered, and then asked again, and then answered again.

So, to answer your question, no, I do not think that you bashed Gadget, but I do think it was not productive, and I don't mean to single you out here at all because there were many posts by many folks, to keep asking about the OU prize and how he did not qualify and how he did not measure this or that well enough to win...etc.  My faith is in Stefan.  I mean, if I announced that I believed that I had won the prize, I would not expect Stefan to just cut me a check based upon my say so.  As per his stated requirements, it will be evaluated to see if it meets the criteria, etc.  If it does, he wins, if not, he does not.

I just wanted to stop what I saw as a trend in going after Gadget and asking him questions that he had already answered a few pages back.  I have to admit, he had more patience than I as he did make an attempt to answer again, and again and again, when all most of the folks had to do was go back a few pages and read his earlier responses.  For the folks that did read his earlier responses and still said he did not measure right, and Gadget said he did, and they said he didn't and Gadget said he did, well, this was not getting anywhere so, we will leave it up to Stefan, who does know how to measure input and output and also controls the prize money.

Forgive me if you believe I singled you out as I did not intend to come across that way.  I remember your posts and while they may have been a little redundant, they were not personal attacks on Gadget in any way, so you are right, you were not bashing him.

I hope you understand what I am trying to say here.  I hate to keep using the joule thief topic (over 10,000 posts) as an example but I will anyway.  We always have welcomed disagreement and dissent as it has helped keep our numbers and experiments honest and has corrected some mistakes along the way.  This is a good thing.  But, if I say hey, I did this and that, and someone says, no you didn't and I say yes I did and they say no you didn't because of this, and I say yes I did, I checked that and they say no you didn't...well you get the idea.  Besides I  have seen evidence of OU with the JT circuit and supercaps long ago and have published all of my experiments in video.  Gadget has taken what we have seen all along to a new level so we, who have worked with this for quite a while, are not shocked by his accomplishments.  Others just coming into the topic are saying stupid things like...JT's are an inductor (yes) Jt's are a simple transformer (yes) they do not create energy (no they don't) but look what they can do and what folks have done with them.  An led takes about 3.5- 4 volts to light along with about 30 mA's or so.  Over a year ago I lit 400 leds with a single AA battery using a JT circuit.  Then, I did the same thing using my earth battery and a boost cap (exactly like the one Gadget is using as I bought it from him)  This is funny because my EB has never put out over 2 volts and about 19 mA's.  Is that creating energy?  No.  Is it storing energy coming out of the EB that I didn't even know was there?  Yes.

Well, this is a very long response to your short question and I hope you see where I am coming from.  You, and several others have raised your reservations about Gadget's circuit.  Those have been duly noted and we will wait and see what Stefan decides.

Thanks,

Bill

[gadgetmall]

@Gadget,

I finally got all caught up in the threads. If there is a way to shut up IST you should try. He is going to be your downfall. He needs to listen to what others are saying and try to understand. The self patting on the back is ridiculous. Maybe it would be better if he jumped in his teleporter and went back to his home planet.

The BIG discovery here is the Ultracap.

You can't use regular or supercaps to get the same results, so the trick is the Ultracap not the jt. There will soon be many other ways popping up to show how to charge them up. Earth Battery, solar call, bendini......

I really don't think it is an overunity discovery, But thank you very much for bringing the ultracaps to our attention. I will have to save up some money to get a couple off of you to play with.

your Welcome  BUT  as said in previous post there is MUCH room for improvemenst to this OU effect and As a condition i asked Stephan   and in all fairness  I discovered it and build it first and its My concepts therefor No prize entrant or entries shall  use My concept  to enter for the prize including using an ultracapacitor or a joule thief as per MY concept . Simply put you can enter using any charging Method with an ultracap as the output source nor use the circiut ground loop had designed and i am ironing out . You can however replicate improve  the design for the benifit  for all but no entery for prize .
Its ou . a simple test for you non believers . If you HAVE a "SUPERCAP" take a charged aa battery @2500ma and charge the at cap up to full capacity . You will not be able to this and your aa battery will depleat very fast trying to do it . Again I charge  Over the unity of My Run Battery  1.4 volts to a BCap with over 2.5-2.6 volts with virtually no loss from the source at all .at the very worst  using a different battery a 10th of a volt drop ., In my case it was  only the last number  5/1000th loss and a full bcap with Energy far beyond . you can actually make the source AA battery explode from the power gained  in teh bcap .!!this is the concept on the Circuit board  we are building to charge the aa battery up to a set voltage either back to unity or over the initial start volts . . And this only takes a second or to to do this . as i stated its like charging an aa battery with a100 amp battery charger . you can only hold it on that for afew seconds before the battery gets hot and eventually Explodes .. i got guy. Als o i did nbot start the repete Experiment 1 last night because i am waiting for an aa battery to Fully charge (18 hours) before i begin the redo over . I am how ever repeating experiment one on a copy of the circuit using an old nickle cadnium battery about 7 years old . here are the results of this so far. remamber this is an old cadinium battery not Ni-mh new one . this one i have had to pop with a12 volt charger several time thruu the last few years to unshort it . i believe its 750 mah a generic GREEN one no markings

circuit exactly as the first one ::with arun battery charged as high as i could get it  the start voltage  and charge voltage is as follows . Also the Current draw for the Transistor is set to 12.90ma at the start of charging an ultracap 650f . also the start volts of the Upcap Is .544 the normal resting voltage of the Ultracapacitor

  Time           RUN                CHARGE

6:45 pm        1.495              .544
6:50 pm         1.438              .550
10:50pm         1.358              .605
11:10pm         1.344               .803
12:20am          1.334              .846
  6:05 am          1.310              1.000
  9:18am           1.304               1.048
  9.59             1.303                 1.058
11:08              1.300                 1.076
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