Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits

[gadgetmall]

@gadgetmall,

I have some work ahead on a battery switch etc. but will try to get some super caps
and do a full replication on your circuits later on. I do have a 12,5 Volt Dynacap, do
you think it will work on Dynacaps also?

Alex.

i am still experimenting with caps charging cap and in the third stage of swapping . i need to repeat that experiment because the cat jumped on the experiment and the charge cap got disconnected while the run cap discharged for hours but i continuied the experiment from there . I tried it with 4.7 farad 2.5 volts caps . they did not work one charged up as the primary to 2.5 volts and the other was i thin k 056 discharged .. the run cap stopped at .521 the 2n2222a limits and the charge cap never reached unity  and was 1 volt and a little more. i documented it all in pages 996 to current page in the JT thread . they did not work because there was not enuff run time amps in the little run cap .they need to be more that 2500 milliamps to show Ou in this simple JT / I think we can improve this with better windings and toroid and transistor and make the little caps work .What is the rating on yours?

gadget

[jadaro2600]

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.msg210029#msg210029

Gadget, you could theoretically use a knife switch to change the source from one capacitor to another, but having the capacitor in the configuration that it's in causes the battery to charge the capacitor while bypassing the transistor.

[Mk1]

@gadget

Did you try charging caps from the secondary ? with no basic jt led.

Or tried your tv disruptor jt .

[gadgetmall]

@gadget

Did you try charging caps from the secondary ? with no basic jt led.

Or tried your tv disruptor jt .

Months and montsh ago i Charge one in 8 hours  but it was not a plain jt like this one . This one will not charge off the secondary at all . it only charged on the C E junction and only with a diode . i used a 1n43 germanium becuae i got a bag of them and the voltage drop is like .4 volts . Like i said i know there is room for improvement but this Experiment Shows that anyone can build this and see for themselves that there is massive Ou . I know we can charge regular caps up to a higher voltage easy but its gone when you short it in a flat milisecond . these are like lithium batteries except the last a lifetime and produce a real current potential . you dont have to run heat . you can run motors or lights or anything really . how about like you said run another jt and charge another bcap .or run another jt from the secondary and charge a bcap . I have not tried that YET . To prove to these guys what they want to see  a self runner . somehow they thing ou is self runner . well this canbe a selfrunner also . right now . i just jump the bcap to the battery for a few seconds and the aa battery jumps up past the original operating voltage and current  this is why we need groundloop .

@jarad yes but they want something you dont touch . It will not be hard to do . just a momentary jump for 5 seconds every 13- 14 hours with this setup they will have Greay hair by the time the Led burns out . By the way i saw my first led burn out a true life  of 100,000hours ., I got this old PALLIGHT 15 years ago . it stays on so you can find it .and has one push on and another push bright bright and another push blink bright .  It stays lit for 2.5 years on a single 9 volt battery . you may have one of the old ones it runs off a 9 volt battery . well it finally burnt out 4 days ago. i replaced it with a new and she is good for another 15 years and 5 more 9 volt batteries thanks for the input jarado .

Gadget

[poynt99]

Hi if your read then you know . Do you know what OU stands for . OVER UNITY .  what is unity in this case . Unity is the aa battery voltage and current / here i have a charged aa battery @ 1.495 volts .2500milliamps  I then charge an ultracapacitor  which  is a DIRECT REPLACEMENT FOR LITHIUM BATTERIES THAT PRODUCES 3500 AMPSSSSS of usable current  charged. THE battery cap IS charged TO 2.600 VOLTS @3500ampssssss  with a very small 5 1000's of a volt =aa battery is 1.490 AFTER THE BCAP IS CHARGED  THIS IS  OVER THE UNITY of THE SOURCE!!!! GET IT NOW >>> do you understand ??

GADGET

You also said this in the now locked thread:

OK what is OU . Its Over UNity . What is Unity in this circuit . Its the AA battery start voltage  and amp. which was 1.495volts @ 2500mah . ok primary source . running a simple STANDARD Joule thief  circuit with a tank on the base . and a secondary of 22 turns for the leds. In this case you really dont have to have the leds . its a plus free energy . i use two .5 watt 5 chip leds . with the circuit adjusted to 13ma with teh ultracap 650farads 2.7 volts connected and discharged to .500 volts or a half a volt . the reason its at .500 volts is this is where transistors stop working and is the normal for my discharged caps . they dont work a Jt any more with a silicon transistor . I turn on the circuit . the Leds are approximately half bright . 14 hours later i have a full ultracapacitor with a causal 2.6 volts . I never charge these caps up to 2.7 volts the highest before they become extremely dangerous and could blow the pop off screw on the side / . Ok . So now we have a 2.6 volts with a maximum capacity of 3500 amps as per specs on the maxwell web site . before i  kill the circuit after looking at the run AA battery voltage it stands at 1.490  or 5/1000ths of a volt dropped and theleds are now 3/4 bright . too bright to stare at .. BUT ALSO i have 2,6 volts Charged in the Bcap At a VERY HIGH AMPERAGE well beyond the  tiny AA battery that burns nichrome wire . Simply Hit the AA battery for 5 seconds and the aa battery is well above its staring voltage . It's like hitting an aa battery with a 100 amp charger . Only for a sec the battery gets hot quick and charges up fast . Now . i still have 2.6  2. 5 volts to light up Nichrome Wire coil and get warm and light up a cigarette. This is way over the Unity of the run battery . See now ?

Gadget

To make sure I understand correctly, there are two things that need clarification:

1) Did you mean to say that the bcap starts off at a voltage of 0.5V before you begin charging it with your JT?

2) After your bcap is charged to 2.6V, you can then connect it briefly (5 or 6 seconds) to your AA rechargeable battery to give it a recharge?

Also, what is your background and formal education in electronics?

Thanks,
.99