Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits

[mscoffman]

Kooler,
   Don't know if you've noticed, but you are using KV and Gadget is not, which is a good way to test weather or not KV expands/enlarges the energy field, adds energy (Don Smith's OU Claim).   
  Many thanks for all of your work here.  Anxious....
Cheers,
Mikey

I think high voltage as it increases in voltage towards
static electricity levels of about 10KV, does indeed invoke
another kind of OU process based in what is called
"free electrons" in the environment. I kind of like the
lowest voltage JT experiments because they don't
invoke HV and then I will know that the JT OU is based
differently then in the free electron type of overunity.
Later these two can be combined.

The logic of this is that non-atomic bound electrons in free
space repel each other rather drastically and shoot away,
because they are very lightweight. But triboelectric charges,
essentially large collections of electrons, attract even more
from the environment making an even bigger electron cloud.
My feeling is that HV free electron collection is essentially
an inherent OU process. The more a circuit moves towards
HV the more it can invoke "free electron" processes. This is
why in ignition coil experiments (30KV) they show very large
numbers of converted cfl's can be strung together along a
wire and yet they still light up. Each wire segment and cfl
attracts new free electrons along the way making the energy
essentially somewhat self restoring.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[jeanna]

What about particles turning to waves?
It is my opinion that this is what happens at any (back)spike.
Sometimes you can see the spike go off the screen at the top and return from off the screen on the bottom.
I cannot argue physics and so I avoid the conversation, but when the math goes to infinity as it does on the pickup,  even in the low voltage jt circuits, this needs to be considered.

This is only my opinion, no more facts or any kind of proof.

jeanna

[mscoffman]

What about particles turning to waves?
It is my opinion that this is what happens at any (back)spike.
Sometimes you can see the spike go off the screen at the top and return from off the screen on the bottom.
I cannot argue physics and so I avoid the conversation, but when the math goes to infinity as it does on the pickup,  even in the low voltage jt circuits, this needs to be considered.

This is only my opinion, no more facts or any kind of proof.

jeanna

In my opinion it looks to me as if the toroid as kind of a optimal transformer
is circulating currents that when the pulse load is placed on the output coil
causes more instantaneously circulating currents rather then less. It looks
as if current under load in a toroid causes propagation of energy rather than
it's depletion as it should under conservative energetic understanding. How
else can you light a four watt lamp with 1/3 watt input power continuously?
You know I'm not talking about the 1.5Volt battery. A four watt incandescent
lamp is still only 5% optically efficient so it will not be part of an energy
recovery system, but led bulbs and cfl's are unusually efficient. And *your*
circuits drive those loads seemingly as well.

So keep up the good work...but I can't explain what you guys seem to
be showing, conventionally. These lighting of lamps with lower amounts
of energy have direct applicability in electric automobiles, by the way.
Even if some component is being stressed and eventually needs to
be replaced, it seems worthwhile.

Does the battery need to see the pulses to excite some exotic
chemistry? That's easy enough to try by using a low value resister
and electrolytic capacitor.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[kooler]

hello
i will probably work on this circuit some more this weekend.. try some different caps and work on the ccfl circuit to see if i can improve it..
and to see what else this circuit board will do on 6 volts..
it took me a couple of trys to get it to 68ma's.. hoping i can get it lower
ah well.. i keep you guys posted

robbie

[jeanna]

Kooler,
Would you do me a biggie, please?
I wonder what your secondary puts out through all those things when you start with a 1.2 or 1.5v battery.
This information will really help me, and I am sure your scope can do it??
I hope?

thanks,

jeanna

edit,
I was thinking about mark's new coil and it made me wonder if you are using thick secondary wire?