Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits

[gadgetmall]

Well let's see   

P=UxI
P=2,6x3500
P=9100 Watt

Are you claiming your little joule thieve setup here is producing close to 10 Kilowatt ?

No i am saying MY circuit produces a voltage of 2.6volts @3500amps=9100 watts that can be constantly drained easly of 1 w/h. I am not good in math anymore i have other experts contributing for the calculations . i had a stroke three years ago and i have some memory loss but if thats what your calculations say then yes . . Understand My only concern this second is to prove Overunity and a selfrunning device that produced massive power output . in this case  the specs of the bcap are located  at maxwell.com SO. as there is no meter i have that can measure 3500 amps i have to go another way and discharge the bcap in nichrome wire .whick will far exceed a 1 watt release . Also the cap will NOT be fully discharged at any time and is constantly be recharger . Please Build one and see for your self . I won't answer any more questions . all the details are here and on page 996-current page on Jule thief thread. Just build one . you won't be sorry and you will have one heck of a simple ou device . Aside from the selfrun circuit being designed you can see the ou effect with just one wire to zap the AA source back  up with the very little loss . also look a page back here at the numbers i am posting on an old AA cadnium battery  charging the Bcap . relize that there is eniff amps /joules /watts in this to burn lamp cord into right now . all this from a measly 1 volt 850ma used  7 years old AA battery If you believe me to be wrong then: Where is your Circuit ? How did you come to that conclusion and with what equasion ?
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[jadaro2600]

Voltage isn't a great indication of power, in order to fully measure the power in watts, or coulombs, you would need a way to measure exactly how 'full' you capacitor really is.

Any suggestions?

[turbo]

Suggestions?

If it does put out 10 Kilowatt you can always hook up five 2Kw heaters.
Or ten  1Kw water cookers.
Or just 100!!!! one hundred Watt light bulbs.
Thats TEN times as much as Mr Steven Mark did because he only showed ten bulbs....

I think its best to redo the calculations first.

M.

[PaulLowrance]

jadaro2600,

Voltage is not an accurate way of determining battery energy-- Key word is "accurate."  For example it's inaccurate to judge how fast an object is moving by human sight alone, but I'll bet you anything I can tell which bowling ball is dropping faster between one that was dropped 5 feet & 100 feet. Here is gadgets claim, which is very obvious,

Quote from Gadget, "I have demonstrated over the unity of a primary source in the Jule thief thread . from an aa battery 2500mah i have charged an ultracapacitor to full capacity with only a few microvolts of loss from the battery 1.4 volt battery ."

And I would add that he was talking about the 650F ultracap, right gadget?

Paul

[gadgetmall]

Voltage isn't a great indication of power, in order to fully measure the power in watts, or coulombs, you would need a way to measure exactly how 'full' you capacitor really is.

Any suggestions?

Hmm. Well watts = volts X amps . unless some one can calculate from the specs of the capacitor at the manufacture site . The other way posted was texplained several pages back to dump in a know load several times unitil its exaused and do the math there when the source battery is fully depleted (not in self run mode) that could take weeks or months for the aa battery to become so depleated it wont run the transistor and more. this is why i want other good members to replicate .And give there results  and are good at power calulations. I'm good at building  and getting stuff to work  but With 4 years college way behind me now  .and the stroke  numbers confuse me . I know what its capable of and as soon as i get my roll of thin nichrome i'll get the video done and borrow a High connection in the city and post it .If some one would just build it or even sugess a newer proven JT cap charger toroid winding i can try that while i'm waiting . I got plenty of bcaps to experiment with .and over 60 blank toroids from goldmine and 5 big ones 3-2inch and 2 three inch . and a 140mm one comming . and the otehr way from My math expert is Take a fully charged AA battery of a known type (eg. 2900mA/h 1,2 Volt)
and then just charge up the cap. When the cap reach 2,6 Volt then
just discharge the cap into some load. Any load. But you need to
make sure that you measure the voltage over the cap to be 2,6 Volt.

Then you repeat the charge for so many times the AA battery allow
you to do. I will guess 11 to 12 times before the AA battery is drained.

Now you just use this math:

Power In Capacitor in Joule = 1/2 * FARAD * (Voltage * Voltage)
* how many times you did discharge the capacitor.

Take this SUM and divide by 3600 and you have the POWER in
Watt / Hour.

If this Power (in Watt/Hour) is greater than the maximum Watt/Hour your AA battery can put out then you have over unity.

Proof is the build fellas I am not answering anymore question .READ

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