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Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits

Started by Pirate88179, November 21, 2009, 02:06:51 PM

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gadgetmall

Quote from: PaulLowrance on November 24, 2009, 12:16:48 AM
If I understand you correctly, and you gave the batteries sufficient rest period to settle down, then that's incredible. The AA source battery started at 1.233V, ended at 1.221V, and the charge battery started at 0.988V, ended at 1.207V? I'm wondering if we can get another person to replicate this, perhaps Yucca. Eventually I'll start building one as well.

Paul
Paul this is nothing new . please check jesus thread . all this has been covered with batteries all ready . someone replicat me is the challange . show me your circuit!!
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Groundloop

@gadgetmall,

My test JT is up and running. Next I will make the add on circuit
for automated discharge and test that circuit. But I will not
have time for that until the weekend.

Alex.

gadgetmall

Quote from: Groundloop on November 24, 2009, 07:31:24 AM
@gadgetmall,

My test JT is up and running. Next I will make the add on circuit
for automated discharge and test that circuit. But I will not
have time for that until the weekend.

Alex.
Sweet . here is Experiment 1 ready to go . all i need to do is put some leds on the secondary . I am using a 1500farad ultracapacitor this time .Pirate please feel free to resize this dang big photo . I cannot with out changing the resolution and it look grainy like crap .here is abrief summery of what this circuit did .:Hi  thanks for your intrest . I will give you a short summery of My discovery and device .

Simply put you build a normal 11 turn Jt on a one inch toroid. I used a goldmine 5 for a dollar one . one out of a computer powersupply might work as well ,mayme better . i use a 2n2222a its a metal can transistor . I tried 2n3906 mpsa05 and a germanium . the 2n2222a works best. OK so there was lots of room on the other side of the torroid so i wound a 22turn secondary for a pick up coil and placed ledson it .you may have to flip the led to get it to turn on . the winding is polarized . Ok . Now from the collector of the transistor i added a germaniun diode . the stripe side of the diod goes to the plus of My chargeing ultracap the neg of the ucap goes to the emmiter of negitive connection to the run battery Its a n aa energizer regchargable Ni-mh 2500mah camera battery .. I run the circuit . my battery volts start is 1.495 . after 14 or so hours ,could be more up to a day the ultrap fills up over 2.600 volts ,way above the run battery that is now showing 1.490, atotal loss of 5/1000th of a volt !! cool . so now in order to make this self run i simple take a jumper and place it on the charging cap positive connection and touch it for a few seconds to positive on the run battery and immetiatly the run battery charges way beyoud the loss it incurred . groundloop (Alex)along with me building a circuit board that will do this automatically . the whole time all the above is occuring the leds remain lit PLUS i have afull ultracap which is a powerful battery in it self to do work like run a nichrome coil for heat for hook up more Jts to run ,leds ,motors anything that requires 2.5 volts at over 3000amps . I just dont see why others don't get it ? I have repeated this over and over . IT is a true over the unity of the run battery .period .  have fun . I will have professional circuit boards soon after we tweak the circuit(hopefully) . The circuit board will also control a load to the ultracap thus providing a load to discharge it so the cycle repeats over an dover and over and over . you see ??
Gadget
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WilbyInebriated

this was deleted from poynt99's farce of a thread by the very guy who claims to be objective... so i opted to put it here where it will won't be deleted and the moderators ARE objective.

Quote from: poynt99 on November 23, 2009, 09:18:37 PM
You're not making much sense Mk1  ???

Do you have a point or a contribution?

I doubt all folks are as up to speed on the JT as you seem to think you are, and since you're anxious to move forward, study this:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209

...and this seems to clearly sum up your knowledge of this circuit:
What invention are you referring to? Are you saying that a bcap being charged by a small boost converter circuit is new, novel or worthy of a patent?

Please try to make some rational sense in your posts this point forward, or they'll probably be deleted.

.99
he made total sense. his point is same as the one i brought up... which is, you're not adding anything new to the discussion. at least you haven't yet. all of what you have said has been covered numerous times in the jt thread. maybe you should study it and you wouldn't have to resort to incorrect assumptions like your 'summation' of mk1's knowledge about the circuit... are you saying you have read the thread entirely or are you jumping the gun?

Quote from: -[marco]- on November 24, 2009, 07:00:39 AM
Okay so from what i know, there was a video from a couple of guy's that showed how to build a joule thief.
They showed that with this device it was possible to lite up LED's from a battery, of which terminal voltage was too low to power the LED's directly.
They said the battery was empty.

So it was a device to get the last bit of energy out of a battery by boosting up the voltage...
Just a means to boost up the voltage to power the LED, and they never even made a OU claim what so ever.

Then these JT threads start to pop up on the boards and people are claiming OU from JT circuits....

Marco.
have you actually read the thread marco are you engaging in assumption and conjecture as well?
no one to my knowledge has claimed OU in the joule thief thread until now... other than IST, but when isn't IST claiming OU? a lttle less hyperbole and a little more accuracy please.
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

innovation_station

i will say i can add i can count and sure i have figured many things out ..
so here we  are .. 

all tests indicate im correct!

nothing have ever been built that can touch it ...

espically if i throw the sm kick at it ...  probally blow the damm caps ...

8)

trust me  i know where  we can take this to a level never seen !

ist!

i feel i do not need to show proof at this time .. i will and i hope a few will build it ..  8)
the proof is showen

we finally got the ee's to calculate it properly

the cop on gadget's fast test  is 2.44 / 1 cycle cap charge .. 
so this ou.. 

it goes less than nothing ..  when i use the output of MY CAN

means infanite efficiency.. over the required start up engery ..

it then CYCLES WITH GAIN!

AND IT COST FROM SOURCE 5/1000V OVER 14H

i will agree i think the math of 1 charge cycle has been  properly calculated ! on the starter !

w

so all in all the ee's woke up  ;D   fact is it does not matter as i will drop a high efficient design on the can .. and soon wash away any rain ..

this was 1 of the most basic jt's  that was tested !

right gadget!  it is just a plain one ... and 2.44 cop   ;D 

To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

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