Joule Thief 101

[Bob Smith]

There seems to be something about resonant oscillation within certain systems that preclude their COP from being accurately analysed with closed system criteria (e.g., in terms of internal losses). Closed system criteria cannot completely account for their performance, which share both closed and open system characteristic behaviors. 
Bob

[MileHigh]

Sorry Bob but "open systems" vs. "closed systems" is really and truly just a meaningless buzz phrase that means nothing.  It's used all the time in free energy pitches by con men.  A circuit on your bench is a "closed system" and what you see is what you get and oscillation does not "accept energy from some place I cannot identify in some form I cannot identify."  It's simply not true.

It's used all the time for coils and I know that many of you believe it.  It's just not true.

[allcanadian]

I was watching one of lidmotors video's of tinmans cool joule and this random video showed up on the right...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7SkE5pERtA. I could not help but think Jeri Ellsworth, a self-taught engineer, is everything our friend Milehigh can never be. She is smart, talented, open minded and most of all...creative.


Magnetic logic gates based on remnant magnetism which everyone has all but ignored...I like it. It would seem this nonsensical same-same BS milehigh preaches is not all the same-same. Imagine if we had many separate cores some partially saturated by an external magnetic field like the Earths which formed multiple logic gates and this intelligent network would only add the Earth remnant field when switched and recycle the set pulse. A travelling magnetic wave manipulating remnant magnetism, adding it, pushing it forward in a coherent way which implies an inherent intelligence in itself.


Intelligence is imagining creative solutions to any problem, stupidity is thinking everything must remain the same-same and there is nothing we can do. I think Jeri Ellsworth is a ray of light compared to the abyss we know as MH, she is everything he can never be...hands on getting shit done, firing up our imagination versus the fucking wet cold blanket effect which seems to follow MH around, lol.

AC

[MileHigh]

Well that's a bunch of pure BS there AC.  There is too much of a tendency to play the pie-in-the-sky game for ordinary vanilla circuits.  You have to get pretty creative sometimes to get that message through because people have a secret sauce fetish and reality can be a very good thing sometimes.

So kiss my fat behind with your insults.

if we had many separate cores some partially saturated by an external magnetic field like the Earths which formed multiple logic gates and this intelligent network would only add the Earth remnant field when switched and recycle the set pulse. A travelling magnetic wave manipulating remnant magnetism, adding it, pushing it forward in a coherent way which implies an inherent intelligence in itself.

OMG!  You had secret-sauce-o-gasm!

[Magluvin]

Was fiddling at lunch here at my shop.  Had an idea to add shorted turns to the transformer  to see what would happen. They are not tight turns. Just a standard alligator jumper lead set.

The battery is down to .48v and still running.  When I went for 1 turn of the alligator clip lead the circuit died.  3 turns was more interesting..

The running freq at .48v is 2.2khz at this time.  When the alligator lead is shorted, 3 turns, the freq jumped to 195khz and very little dimming on the led.

Now when I had adjusted the resistor last night to upwards of 80kohm the led was pretty dim. But here with the shorted turns the led is still kickin but at a very high jump in freq. Pretty cool.  Will do more tests on that. More turns and even try some caps on the alligator clips to see how things go.

Dont have time to vid it. Just a couple pics for now.


The scope shot is at 2us compared to the earlier shots at 400us.  Will try stuff later with a fresh battery after this one runs down.

The blue trace is of the batt at .48v.

Mags