Joule Thief 101

[tinman]

So there is your big fail right there.

f = ma

Force = mass x acceleration.

What do you have to say now?

What i have to say MH,is you have forgotten all about your determining the top speed of a car saga.
Here on earth,Force=mass x acceleration- friction-->you forgot all about the effects of gravity MH.

Hey MH-->how do you determine the top speed of a shopping trolley 


Brad

[MileHigh]

What i have to say MH,is you have forgotten all about your determining the top speed of a car saga.
Here on earth,Force=mass x acceleration- friction-->you forgot all about the effects of gravity MH.

Brad

You are talking nonsense and I am being serious.

If you stand next to a wall and push on it, it pushes back at you with the same force.

When you push on a shopping cart and it accelerates, it doesn't matter and the shopping is still pushing back at you with the same force.

Do you understand this and agree with this or not?

If you disagree then I want your full explanation.

[Johan_1955]

If you stand next to a wall and push on it, it pushes back at you with the same force.

The WALL is pushing back, funny, what is the stroke, trabago? Do you mean resits a force, like wind m2!

When you push on a shopping cart and it accelerates, it doesn't matter and the shopping is still pushing back at you with the same force.

Resistance?

[tinman]

Brad:

No avoiding this:



What are you talking about?  I never said that.

No avoiding this:

Here is the reality for you Brad:   What do you think Picowatt is going to say?  And what is your response to the fact that we are in agreement although we still haven't heard from Picowatt?

<<< Of course MH will try and skip past this,as it dose not agree with the answer he wants everyone to believe.  >>>



No avoiding this:

I said to you if you didn't like the ideal inductor, then turn it into a real inductor by putting a 0.00001 resistor in series with the ideal coil and then go and answer the question.  I don't care if you want to do that, and now just go ahead and answer the question.

Personally, when I first asked you this I think that you were incapable of answering the question and so you just brushed it off.  I am still waiting for you to answer the question and do it with a real inductor if you want.

MileHigh

You have myself, Poynt, Verpies and Partzman telling you how an ideal coil works and we are all in agreement.

I do not remember seeing verpies in agreement with you. I did see he agreed with one of my posts--did you miss that?.
Partsman and poynt are yet to show a sim of an ideal inductor doing what you say it dose. Yes that right,they must include some resistance for the sim to sim lol.

Personally, when I first asked you this I think that you were incapable of answering the question and so you just brushed it off.  I am still waiting for you to answer the question and do it with a real inductor if you want.

I have answered your question correctly.
You cannot place an ideal voltage across an ideal inductor,as an ideal inductor dose not exist.
That being the case,all answers are theories only,as the answer cannot be proven to be correct.
We already know that a superconductor produces an equal and opposite magnetic force to that which created it. We know that current can flow through a superconductor without a voltage across it. An ideal inductor would be wound with superconducting wire-hence no resistance. So what is the difference between the two MH? One has it's current induced by the EMF placed across it,and the other has it's current induced by the external magnetic field.
Your saying one will work--produce the equal and opposite,while the other will not.

Quote me---><<< In one statement you say a voltage cannot exist across an ideal inductor while a DC current flows through it,but your question states an ideal voltage of 4 volts is across the ideal inductor while a DC current flows through it. >>>

What are you talking about?  I never said that.

You didnt ? 
Are you sure?.


Brad

[MileHigh]

Johan:

Yes the wall pushes back and there is no friction in this discussion.

You should be ashamed of yourself for comparing me to a notorious child abuser and you should apologize to me and to everyone on this forum.  Your behaviour was disgusting.