Joule Thief 101

[massive]

I had a peek at page 1 ,   this thread is ancient and was supposed to be 2 dozen posts long lol

MH and others should be seen as a resource , that there alone would rub a few people the wrong way

If anyone wants conventional wisdom regaurds electronics , physics etc , there are forums open to questions but once you go there youll have to explain why and how you intend to apply this knowledge
....and that is when you are going to be singled out as an example and get hammered

its important for people to have ideas out side the box , its also important to know whats in the box

these days forums are like the roman arenas , 2 goes in , 1 comes out , or is that mad max     

[MileHigh]

Magluvin:

I hope your mother has a full and speedy recovery.

Threads get long no matter what, it's a fact of life.  I find your argument strange, use links if you have to.  But where is "Saint Brad" when you complain about the length of the thread?  He is easily responsible for 50% or more when it comes to the length of the thread.  I asked some simple questions about a wine glass resonating, and he has been objecting to that obsessively and eating up page after page.  Instead of taking my responses at face value and then trying to figure it out for himself it's a battle.  He is the root cause of the "problem."

If you know all about resonance then the wine glass questions should be a simple no-brainer.

I have made my points, but if Brad comes back and tries to force a question into his own mold, or worse, play the game of answering a question that wasn't even asked, or says something that probably three-quarters of us know is cockamamie nonsense that gives people the wrong information, then I will respond.

Good luck with the "resonant Joule Thief" and it will be great to see your results one way or the other.  Starting a task and actually completing it to fruition will be a great thing.

Massive:

Thank you for your comments.

MileHigh

[ramset]

MH
Where does the shame lie in your apparent ignorance of present investigations into resonance and LENR ,does the shame lie in your ignorance or in your ability
to call such claims false and bogus because you have no Knowledge or experience ,yes it is true we could go to a physics forum and play two men enter one man leaves.. might sell a lot of tickets ...

fact is that resonance is under serious investigation as a means to an end here and elsewhere , many fellows building here have built all manner of circuits to investigate this ,here they build specifically to hunt in  ferrites .Akula etc etc

most recently member chessnyt  found a path to over abundant electrolysis
in water thru a circuit that senses in real time and responds appropriately to the Resonant peaks .,

Your inability to comprehend what Smokey is truly meaning
with his JT resonant proposal and design criteria are lost in your
dogma.
he is talking about building a JT circuit to pound a ferrite into oblivion[eventually... baby steps at first]
and hopefully some transmutation in the process [been claimed many times
here and elsewhere]
by using minimal input and maximum use of resonance or a harmonic of same.

My grandkids watching mythbusters could explain the concept ,and most children could too .
Things come apart at frequencies specific to their compositions or the composition of dominant elements within their matrix .

many feel that heat alone is not the best path to LENR [such as Parkhomov and others are doing]
many feel the addition of frequency to specific targets within the sample matrix would be of tremendous benefit .

here is a link that would probably benefit tremendously from such an addendum as Smokey's proposed build.
http://www.lookingforheat.com/

staying in your box of EE experience is not what we are talking about here

never was.

climb down off your cross we need the wood .

[tinman]

The question of the build of "the resonant Joule Thief" has been put aside.  I suppose the only question is if Magluvin will report his results if they are negative.







MileHigh

My "negativity" is mostly a response to your negativity Brad.  You are so obsessed with not being wrong or not being corrected or rewriting or challenging a question so that you are not perceived as being wrong that it is completely ridiculous.  It's a dirty cat fight with you and you start it almost all the time.  On top of that, sometimes there are these pregnant embarrassing moments where you say the most ridiculous nonsensical things and nobody says anything, and believe me that many people know you are putting your foot in your mouth.  You are given "a pass" because you supposedly wear some kind of halo and people reading you would be too embarrassed themselves to correct you.  And that's a big part of the reason that it is taking you more than six years to get through the equivalent of an Electronics 101 course.  Your own peers are letting you down by not challenging your whackadoo statements or correcting and educating you.  Then again, one can assume that they don't want to deal with your obsessive push-back to the point of lunacy if they are going to try to correct you.  Do you get that?  They don't want to deal with it and that makes you your own worst enemy.

Well now is your time to shine MH,and tell us all what,how and when resonance is. Forget the 4 to 8 weeks bullshit,let's us have it.

You talk about being "misguided," you have got to be one of the most misguided people on this forum.  Your continual push-back spawns all of the negativity - poor little Brad can't be wrong - when the reality is that sometimes you are "not even wrong" or "beyond wrong."

!If! i am proven to be wrong MH,then i take it on the chin,and learn from my mistakes. But so far in this thread,i have had to correct you on a few occasions now. First up was the cool joule circuit,and how it managed to run without any inductive coupling between L1 and L2,and then your incorrect statement about there being no resonance in ICE's. Then there was your last gasp for air-trying to determine the top speed of a vehicle without all the relevant information needed to do so.

You want an example of irrational relentless push-back spawning a lot of negativity?  Your battle about "something missing" in the question asking how the resonant frequency is determined for the wine glass is a classic example.  It's completely ridiculous as I showed you with the example of the maximum speed for a car.  You don't have to try to answer a question that wasn't even asked to twist yourself "into the clear."  Some people reading are aghast that you seemingly can't process or understand a simple question that simply asks you to explain something without needing specifics.  There are always questions asking people to explain the concept or the process without specifics.  We do this almost every single day in our daily lives and yet you want to insist that "something is wrong with the question."  The only reason you are saying that something is wrong with the question is because you can't answer it.  Or, even worse, you are not capable of dealing with concepts or processes because that simple basic abstraction is beyond your capabilities.

Your question !as i have said! is all over the place.
First it's !what! determines the resonant frequency of the wine glass,and then it's !how! is the resonant frequency of the wine determined--two totally different question's--both of which i have answered correctly. Your car's top speed answer was wrong,as you missed one vital piece of information needed to calculate the top speed of the vehicle.

I am simply standing my ground this one time and I won't be demonized for that.  I am not even truly interested in this stuff and it's rare that I want to talk circuits.  Instead of you always getting "a pass" why not at least this one time follow this through to the end and see if you can learn something new, or even better, teach yourself something new?

Your ground you are standing on MH,is 4 to 8 weeks long.
Why is it you can demand we answer questions within day's,and yet you have the right to take weeks to answer the same questions-->your questions.

Since you talked the big talk about resonance I brought up the issue of the resonating wine glass.  You and Smoky clearly have not been able to show you know what you are talking about - that's where it stands like it or not.

A big claim by some one that has submitted nothing in the way of an accurate description to there own questions.

You are going to wait for a few more weeks to see if you or Smoky will teach yourselves because that is a lot better than getting spoon fed.  To be honest part of the wait is karma that you brought onto yourself as clearly evidenced earlier in this thread.

First up-you(nor anyone else) will tell me how long i have to wait for anything,no will i be told what i do and do not have to learn.
What is clear in this thread so far,is you do not have much of an idea as to where resonant systems
exist. There is also the fact that it is going to take you 4 to 8 weeks to figure out how you can get your self out of this hole you have fell in--a hole you dug your self.

Like it or not, you should respect me for being honest with you about the resonance stuff.  Like it or not, you got some blunt talk about your continual obsessive push-back.  Your buddies on this forum mostly give you a pass when you state the most ridiculous totally incorrect things and that just keeps you in a stupor.  Sorry to be harsh, but I can see that the boys have all picked up stones and they want to hurl them at me.  Shame on anyone that does that, go read "The Lottery" again and bow your heads in shame.

It has nothing to do with buddies sticking together MH,it has to do with some of the garbage you post that is very incorrect.

There have been a few examples here on this thread alone
1-there is no resonance in an ICE
2-the cool joule circuit dose not operate as i described.
3-this is how you determine the top speed of a motor vehicle--even though a large piece needed to make that determination was missing.<--Do you know what was missing from that MH?.
4- 4 to 8 weeks to deliver the !correct! answers to ones own questions.
Question 1--what determines the resonant frequency of a wine glass
Question 2--how is the resonant frequency of a wine glass determined
Question 3-- What is resonance<--the scientific meaning.

The people on this thread are making choices based on what they have seen so far MH,not on who they like the best,and so far you have made 3 incorrect determinations regarding resonance and top speed of a motor vehicle.


Brad

[minnie]

  Resonance is a "mass noun" as is pollution!