Joule Thief 101

[MileHigh]

Well MH,looking at your three responses, it is very clear that you have no idea as to how theses types of circuits work. All these years you posed as a guru,and here we see the simple thing's going way over your head.

Well Brad, then please go ahead and explain how a standard Joule Thief works and explain how lowering the value of the base resistor as the battery voltage drops will make the LED brighter.

I mean,you are normally one of the first to view my video's,just so as you can add your thumbs down,but at the same time,not having the guts to make a comment--like most that leave a thumbs down.

The truth is that I very rarely watch one of your videos and I don't use the thumbs-up/thumbs-down feature.  I am not going to spend 35 minutes to watch a video that has about four minutes worth of real content in it.  To the best of my recollection I haven't made a comment on one of your videos in years.

You are like a really bad actor in a really bad 1952 sci-fi movie, lord knows what is possessing you to do this.

[MileHigh]

what is the magnetic force?

How many times are you going to drone on with this question?  Why don't you just spill your magic beans?

What you are really asking me is what a magnetic field is, a la tatted Kenny.  I have a basic Brad Secret Decoder Ring.

This shows the mechanics of the generation of a magnetic field based on the existence of a moving point charge and the most common moving point charge is an electron:

Calculating the Magnetic Field Due to a Moving Point Charge:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waTF7kjmmt8

Then there is the quantum theory about fields and I am not qualified to discuss it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_%28physics%29

It is now believed that quantum mechanics should underlie all physical phenomena, so that a classical field theory should, at least in principle, permit a recasting in quantum mechanical terms; success yields the corresponding quantum field theory. For example, quantizing classical electrodynamics gives quantum electrodynamics. Quantum electrodynamics is arguably the most successful scientific theory; experimental data confirm its predictions to a higher precision (to more significant digits) than any other theory.[17] The two other fundamental quantum field theories are quantum chromodynamics and the electroweak theory.

So you can Google away to your heart's content or even better go take some university courses in quantum mechanics.  That's about all that you are going to get out of me on this matter.

If you are not satisfied with my links to provide a basic summary for an answer to your question, then answer your question yourself.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

Surly you are not that far behind that you cant understand how a steel laminated core can be 1 half of a capacitor

Stop being a clown.  Your "description" of whatever you were talking about with no diagram, no schematic, and no frame of reference or context is such that it amounted to nonsensical technical gibberish.  It's just another example that illustrates once again how severely handicapped your communication skills are.  Whatever it is that you are trying to talk about, just drop it.

This is what really counts:  Well Brad, then please go ahead and explain how a standard Joule Thief works and explain how lowering the value of the base resistor as the battery voltage drops will make the LED brighter.

[wattsup]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....choke, choke, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

What was the original question again? So.... was it how many glasses of wine should one drink before the glass feels like it's resonating?

It's so easy making up questions. It's actually fun. It's also very very easy to tell people they are stupid if they cannot then answer the question. It's even easier knocking them down when they come up with some reasons instead of being courteous and asking for more clarifications without castrating them first.. Wow, this is a really great thread, I'm impressed. So..........I just learned how to bait people into a vague question and see them scramble about while they are being treated like nimrods.

Reminds me of a joke I heard a long time ago: How do you confuse a Newfy? You take him into a round room and tell him to piss in the corner. hahahahaha (Always gets a laugh)

@MH, get off your high horse will y'a. You have no business here knocking @tinman or anyone else. This is not @MH's Lessons in Self-OU-Flagellation. Just get to the point will y'a. All this whining without dining is getting stale. Also why settle for a cheap China made Brad Secret Decoder Ring knockoff when the original is right here and available to answer questions that are put in a respectful manner.?

So here where you posted this;
http://overunity.com/8341/joule-thief-101/msg477656/#msg477656
is a good example of why people never think anymore. They read stuff like this and consider it to be a real explanation but when you ask "Where is the proof" you get this standard answer "That's the way it is". So why is it that you can push all these notions of the "electron charge" (whatever that is), and the field (whatever that is) that have never been proven or that can very easily be discounted under other causal actions, while anyone else with an angle needs to bow down to your measuring stick. Man you need to grow up fast. I could spend the next 5 months dissecting all EE causal positions and bring them all back to a simple set of rules that would kill the field and electron forever. Then even you would not be able to dispute these and then where would you be? This level of standard arrogance is so pervasive that others don't even realize they are being exposed to it. It's like breathing air. Normal. Hmmm.

@All

I have a very bad feeling that whatever @MH comes up with in terms of his Oracle derived answer, the price will be too high and the payout will be very very low. So, as our best friend Mr. Trump always says "This is a very bad deal". hahaha

So I suggest that if no one personally knows a nice foxy shaped wine glass that talks, we will not get the answer from the glasses mouth. Then resonance remains as it is untouched but definitely blemished by the actions on this thread.

What resonance is........ is what I posted many pages back. Like it or not, resonance in our coils is a measure of the active atoms that are able to sway more then others at a particular frequency. Nothing more. What does it produce? Voltage without a punch. Small fry. What is it good for? Nothing if you cannot work out a way to convince more atoms to partake in the action. But to do that you need to look at what I posted to @gotoluc (third down) back in January of this year;
http://overunity.com/16261/rotating-magnetic-fields-and-inductors/msg470258/#msg470258

There can be other ways as well but they involve more demanding builds and experimental work. This is what should be discussed here and not how a fu&k'*n wine glass resonates. Now if you have direct questions, please do but please stay off the wine will y'a.

So, if Metglass and other oriented steel type laminations are the best for the core, then why not think that the copper atoms would work better (produce more amps) under resonance if more atoms were oriented to respond together since more atoms that jitter means more amps that flicker. If 100% of the copper atoms were 100% free to respond to all frequencies, then what would resonance be? Nothing but just another accepted reaction and our wires would be working as super conductive under normal ambient conditions. But right now, resonance is telling us that not even 5% of those atoms are ever active unless you drive the wire to the hilt and we all know that such standard conditions never produce OU, only heat and losses.

wattsup

[Pirate88179]

I have emptied several glasses of wine and, as of yet, have found no answers.
The only resonance I could detect was a bit of gas (methane) which I can not directly attribute to the wine, so, I am lost now.

I think that my only hope is Ella Fitzgerald...she obviously know resonance...and she got paid for knowing it.  What a deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG8K0yl4_hc&list=RDYG8K0yl4_hc#t=13

Bill