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Joule Thief 101

Started by resonanceman, November 22, 2009, 10:18:06 PM

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EMJunkie

Quote from: tinman on April 07, 2016, 08:28:25 PM
So are you saying for the below circuit,that the wave form should look like the attached scope shot?.


Brad



Hey Brad,

Yes Sir, equal and opposite, but, there is a small catch here, reactive power can change the phase angle some! Which has nothing to do at all with Faradays Law or Lenz's Law.

This is Ping Pong Power, if an Ideal Inductor were considered, the power you put in, is the power you get out again. So properly interpreting your scope shots, you need to take into account the Phase angle on your Input.

If youre getting 90 Degrees, then the Power you put In, you get all that back out again. This is a Lossless Inductor!

To Calculate this, its: V * A * Cos(ϕ)

Where:
ϕ = Phase angle from Volts to Current, or sometimes Current to Volts.
V = Volts
A = Amps

A little bit of reference material here: Transformer: primary side & secondary side current 180 degree out of phase

It is very standard knowledge in Electronics/Transformer Theory. I am super surprised TK got this so terribly wrong!

I have built a small App if you want to use it, it calculates the Params you put in. Need to know the Phase angle of Current to Voltage, if its Voltage leading.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


MileHigh

Quote from: EMJunkie on April 07, 2016, 08:27:00 PM


Hahahaha - Why - Will the Universes Physical Laws change in two days?

Hahahaha - MilleHehehehehe the Dementia Patient!!!

At last you get to meet someone new every 10 Seconds!!!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

When it comes to electronics Chris you have proven yourself to be a hapless clown.  Then on top of that you are acting like a clown on this thread.  Nobody replicated your experiment, chances are it was just another hapless beginner duping himself by listening to your nonsense.  I really can't take you seriously, you come off as a paper-cutout version of a real person.

EMJunkie


To elaborate a little more:

Apparent Power is Volts * Amps - This is not always the power consumed by the System if Inductors/Capacitors are present.

Below, we see 1 Amp, 1 Volt, normally this would be seen to be 1 Watt of power Consumed. But with a 90 degree phase angle, all your input power is being returned to the Source. No Power at all is consumed by your System.

A very interesting subject to learn about.


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

MileHigh

Quote from: tinman on April 07, 2016, 07:25:50 PM
No,that is another win for me.
There is two opposite examples of existent resonance in the combustion chamber that you said never existed ;)

Another fail by you MH.

Brad

No way, it's a tie.  You were supposed to show how resonance improved the combustion process to give you better performance, not "prove that resonance exists."  Blow across the top of a beer bottle and you get resonance, BFD.  You cited one example that decreases performance and an other example that increases performance - it's a tie.

EMJunkie

Quote from: MileHigh on April 07, 2016, 08:48:12 PM
When it comes to electronics Chris you have proven yourself to be a hapless clown.  Then on top of that you are acting like a clown on this thread.  Nobody replicated your experiment, chances are it was just another hapless beginner duping himself by listening to your nonsense.  I really can't take you seriously, you come off as a paper-cutout version of a real person.


Confused again MilleHehehehe - Wow are you wrong pal, then you Lie and Back Pedal to try to get yourself out of your lies!!!

You've gone downhill since I came back here, its just been too much for you old mate, hasn't it!!!

The pressure of being proven wrong so many times by others here, much smarter than you, is just too much!!!

Its obvious that your decline from your self-proclaimed pedestal is accelerating!!!


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org