Joule Thief 101

[ramset]

MileHigh
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That is a complete and total lie and you know it !

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Miles

My Comment where I mentioned your willingness to make assumptions in a field that is Not _your_ field
and declare Facts which are Not facts at all ..

was indeed true.. and calling me a liar will not change that .

And yes it is good for the readers to know your _limitations_ and just how far you will
go to be _right_ .

[tinman]

MileHigh
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That is a complete and total lie and you know it !

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Miles

My Comment where I mentioned your willingness to make assumptions in a field that is Not _your_ field
and declare Facts which are Not facts at all ..

was indeed true.. and calling me a liar will not change that .

And yes it is good for the readers to know your _limitations_ and just how far you will
go to be _right_ .

Chet-dont take it to heart,MH calls everyone a liar if they dont agree with him.
He often has said that we should learn from our mistakes,but he seems to be one that dose not wish to learn,but to be right on every occasion. And when he is proven to be wrong,he dose what Webby says he dose--he starts to twist and distort things to suit his needs.
The need to be right run through his blood like water flows down a river.

We shall see if he can answer his own question correctly--see if he had the right to judge others as he dose so often.


Brad

[MileHigh]

Wow, what a vile hate-filled rant.  When you are challenged and treated like any other normal person that's been playing with electronics for six years and not coddled like a "special case" you turn into one pretty nasty mean SOB, don't you Brad?

We both know that me answering the coil question is moot.  If I didn't treat you like a normal person then you wouldn't have freaked out and you wouldn't even be questioning me.  This is just you exposing yourself for how nasty and ugly you can be and how low you will stoop by talking up BS about me.  It's a sham.  The veil has been lifted and it's not pretty at all.  In fact it's downright creepy.  And then you get two henchmen thrown in to boot.

What a farce, answer the bloody question yourself if you want to.  The point was made.  Wattsup questioning PW and then trying to suggest that PW ran away because he couldn't deal with the subject matter was ridiculous.  I wanted to set the situation straight for that just on principle.  I was motivated to do that by reading some foolishness about a pizza pie Earth.  And you and Wattsup and EMJunkie for all your big talk are still more or less at square one, as illustrated by the examples of the coil and the wine glass.  The implicit message in all of this is that if you are serious about your hobby then forget about talking the big talk, learn to walk the walk for real.  Or just crawl forever, it's up to you.

[tinman]

Wow, what a vile hate-filled rant.  When you are challenged and treated like any other normal person that's been playing with electronics for six years and not coddled like a "special case" you turn into one pretty nasty mean SOB, don't you Brad?

No,not at all MH.
I turn into some one that dose not like people associating my name with there lies.
like i said MH,i was happy to leave it alone-and i did. But you continued your attack on me by way of posting lies about me being wrong.

We both know that me answering the coil question is moot.  If I didn't treat you like a normal person then you wouldn't have freaked out and you wouldn't even be questioning me.  This is just you exposing yourself for how nasty and ugly you can be and how low you will stoop by talking up BS about me.  It's a sham.  The veil has been lifted and it's not pretty at all.  In fact it's downright creepy.  And then you get two henchmen thrown in to boot.

It is troubling when some one actually starts to believe there own lies MH--you should seek help.
The only reason you will not answer your own question regarding the coil and ideal voltage,is because you cannot. That makes you the worst of the worst.

What a farce, answer the bloody question yourself if you want to.  The point was made.

I have already stated to you that i do not know the answer--lets stick to that .
The point that has been made here,is you ask people questions,and judge people on things they !may! not know,and yet you do not know them your self.You made the very same judgement on me ,regarding the use of a J/FET in a low voltage JT type circuit,and you fell flat on your face on that one as well.

Wattsup questioning PW and then trying to suggest that PW ran away because he couldn't deal with the subject matter was ridiculous.  I wanted to set the situation straight for that just on principle.  I was motivated to do that by reading some foolishness about a pizza pie Earth.

Or the earthquake making,flag shaking Astronaut on the moon 

And you and Wattsup and EMJunkie for all your big talk are still more or less at square one, as illustrated by the examples of the coil and the wine glass.

As i have stated,the wine glass will not resonate alone--that is a fact you cannot avoid MH.
You could of course prove me wrong,and show us all here a wine glass resonating on it's own.

   

The implicit message in all of this is that if you are serious about your hobby then forget about talking the big talk, learn to walk the walk for real.  Or just crawl forever, it's up to you.

The !implicit! message here is MH,learn to accept when you are wrong-as i have done many times before.
Do not judge people on questions you cannot answer your self.
And stop telling people that resonance cannot increase the efficiency in any type of system,as that is just another lie that has been proven wrong in this thread.


Brad

[tinman]

Dumb question time,, I am not all that hot on electrical stuff,, so I know it is stupid and is in the 101 class,,

0.5*(C*V^2)

So,, 540uf charged to 30V dumped into a 14000uf cap should raise that cap up to what voltage?

So 30v across 540uF =243mJ of stored energy.

I am actually dumping it into 2,, one goes to 1.04V and the other goes to 0.87V

Two caps of what size?,,Both 14000uF ?.
If so,then 1.04v across 14000uF=7.571mJ of stored energy in that cap,and .87v across the other 14000uF cap gives you 5.28mJ of stored energy in that cap.
What is left in your 540uF cap after the test?.


Brad