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New Russian Permanent magnet motor ?

Started by hartiberlin, November 24, 2009, 03:38:49 PM

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hartiberlin

Hi, have a look at this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeZ0k3if1S4

What do you think about this ?

Real or a fake ?

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum


powercat

Fake
TK has already shown how this phenomenon works, okay he is using a different type of magnet wheel, but it clearly demonstrates the principal.
cat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXpEqoDJDbM
In this video I demonstrate the autokinetic magnet propulsion effect, also known as the Minato Effect. It's easy for a well-balanced wheel with magnets to be propelled quite rapidly, if the researcher is holding the stator by hand. Oddly enough, the effort required to hold the stator motionless, as the retracpulsion (tm) and repultraction (tm) rotor magnet zones move past the stator position will actually drive the rotor.
You can duplicate this effect with just about any reasonable arrangement of magnets, which probably accounts for the wide variety of (non working) magnet motor designs--they all passed through this kind of manual testing stage, and the inventors were convinced by what they saw--the stator can be held motionless yet the rotor still turns.
Unfortunately, as we all know, as soon as the stator is rigidly mounted the rotor begins to run down. But a heavy rotor can take a long time to run down.
When logic and proportion Have fallen
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hartiberlin

Hi powercat,
with the Minato effect it is different.
TK only showed the magnet being hold ABOVE the rotor,
where it can be lowered and raised by hand and he made it it this way move.

But with the Russian guy, he hold the stator pretty tight within his hand
at the side of the rotor and the rotor accelerates without
him moving the stator in his hand.

I agree, that it would be required to show the stator
magnet being fixed to a fixed holder stator arm,
but the video looks already pretty convincing,
if he does not have a hidden power source anywhere..

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

powercat

Hi Stefan
Russian guy is using a small magnet wheel, and looking closely he does seem to be moving the stater magnet in his hand.
TK's example is different to this one,was mainly to do with Mylowe, but I feel with different magnet arrangements  different positions will also work, not just from above.

Maybe hes all so combining this with a very small motor, I don't know, if video analysis was done, it might show that there is a working motor.
TK believe these type of magnet motors will never work, and I am inclined to go along with him.

Just my one cents worth, there are others here more fanatical about magnet, hopefully they will join in.

cat
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall