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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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lumen

Hmmm....... I just realized this may be working on a totally different principal than a pulse motor.
They are using toroidal coils!
My theory is that the rotor is attracted to the core of the toroidal coils. Then they saturate the core with the windings to eliminate or reduce the attraction, and the rotor magnets are free leave with less energy than they gained during the attraction.
Like the magnetic amplifier principal.

Any thoughts?


PaulLowrance

Quote from: lumen on December 16, 2009, 12:19:05 PM
Hmmm....... I just realized this may be working on a totally different principal than a pulse motor.
They are using toroidal coils!
My theory is that the rotor is attracted to the core of the toroidal coils. Then they saturate the core with the windings to eliminate or reduce the attraction, and the rotor magnets are free leave with less energy than they gained during the attraction.
Like the magnetic amplifier principal.

Any thoughts?

A lot of my magnetic designs are based on the premise of changing the cores effective permeability.  :)

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hartiberlin

Quote from: Staffman on December 15, 2009, 06:59:19 PM
@hartiberlin

I did see something about the magnetic field configuration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=en-GB&v=K2eL-NlMtSI&feature=related

Here someone replicated the Steorn Toy, but called it the "90 Degree Magnet Rule".

To me it looks like a gate.

Hmm,
but that is not an official Steorn movie, but only a tinkerer, who
thinks that it is this effect.
Steorn to my knowledge has not yet explained,
where the additional magnetic energy comes from or
how they extract it.
They only showed these 2 new videos,
where one could see, that it is a pulse-motor with some
pickup generator coils, but they have not yet explained,
how exactly they generate more energy via the pickup coils,
than they input via the motor coils.

Or did they already state that somehow ?

I really would love to see the input current into the motor
coils on a few scopeshots on a calibrated shunt and scope and
the output voltages and currents
of the pickup coils.
Then one could really say, what is going on in this motor/generator.

The way they show it now is only a big publicity stunt with no real data..

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

I had a closer look to the video and
saw this Roth Elektronik Germany board RE901.

Here they are using this circuit PCB board  for their circuit:

http://ch.farnell.com/roth-elektronik/re901/laborkarte-smd-sot-23-multi/dp/1172113


http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/13633.pdf

It is a multisolution SMD pcb board, which can hold several SMD devices.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Staffman

Quote from: lumen on December 16, 2009, 12:19:05 PM
Hmmm....... I just realized this may be working on a totally different principal than a pulse motor.
They are using toroidal coils!
My theory is that the rotor is attracted to the core of the toroidal coils. Then they saturate the core with the windings to eliminate or reduce the attraction, and the rotor magnets are free leave with less energy than they gained during the attraction.
Like the magnetic amplifier principal.

Any thoughts?

Very interesting observation. That may be easy to test.