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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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PaulLowrance


Even more detailed COP measurements. Once again the "tiny Orbo replication" is far over COP 1 -->

http://globalfreeenergy.info/2010/01/19/orbo-replication-cop-measurements-2/

I've been having fun with my "tiny Orbo replication." At one point yesterday the toroid was moved about as close as possible to the magnets. This thing spun up to 7000 rpm's in a matter of seconds, and sounded kind of like my dremel drill. I had to disconnect it otherwise who knows how many rpm's it would have went to.


k4zep

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 19, 2010, 06:33:26 PM
Even more detailed COP measurements. Once again the " Orbo replication" is far over COP 1 -->

http://globalfreeenergy.info/2010/01/19/orbo-replication-cop-measurements-2/

I've been having fun with my "tiny Orbo replication." At one point yesterday the toroid was moved about as close as possible to the magnets. This thing spun up to 7000 rpm's in a matter of seconds, and sounded kind of like my dremel drill. I had to disconnect it otherwise who knows how many rpm's it would have went to.

Hi Paul,

Looking at your numbers I get the impression that you are calculating the efficiency of the motor based on the premis that with a known average input, if you can show losses that are greater than the input power and it still runs, it is OU....IF this is the fact, and your motor is using the Viscous theory, your motor should at some RPM stabilize at voltages and current given.  That it does not up to 7K and maybe higher would suggest that something other than the calculated losses is wrong or that your calculated input is wrong.  I'm not saying that any of the above assumptions is correct, I just get that funny feeling when I see the numbers because:

If you are using 2714 material, your indicated inductance is very low @ 60uH?????  I have never been able to get a motor to run at that low inductance.  OF course that indicated value makes you motor OU.   I would really check that but it is obvious you are a very precise experimenter and careful in your measurements.  Did you mean 60mH?  If so, that would muck things up a bit but would make things fall into place a lot more.

What is your inductance, free air, fully saturated by magnet and switched via the voltage and current given when at TDC in the magnetic field?  Also if using Steorn viscosity theory, there should be a sweet spot rpm wise where it should stabilize as it would drop off above, speed up below wouldn't it as it goes into and out of OU based on the delay and position of magnets for the viscous pulse?  IF it doesn't stabilize and just keeps winding up,  it is just a pulse motor, a very good one!!! and the overall thrust is purely magnetic, not viscous.  Just curious and NOT being in any way raising a fuss, just need clarification.......

Respectfully,

Ben


PaulLowrance

Quote from: k4zep on January 19, 2010, 07:33:04 PM
Well Paul,

Put a very small generator on that sucker and self power it..........Very good! 
Perception has made me eat much crow in the past!!!  What current and voltage are you switching?

Ben

Sure, but I'll need to borrow some room temperature superconducting wires.  ;)    Right now my coil wires are thin. Maybe if I placed about 5 layers in parallel to reduce joule heating, and had a near frictionless magnetic bearing, then it would self-run. My measurements are only to detect any excess energy.

You can see the current & voltage on the blog page. The pulses across the coil are 1.26 amps & 0.36 volts. Coil inductance inductance during the pulse period is 60 uH in the setup during this COP measurement.

k4zep

Hi Gang,

Slow motor magnet/core/LED ....Just another little bit of knowledge for those like me who visualize things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpob2zF18Qk

Let me say this is NOT a true Steorn motor but a small step in that direction, a bit more instrumentation to see the viscous effect in the coil real time in the motor core to set timing, dual magnets, Metglass core and we might get there!

Ben


EBISEVAC

@Paul
I need your help. I am doing something wrong but I can't see it. My rotor is motor from hard drive with 3.5" pvc pipe cap (from Homedepot)  and 4 neo magnets, all north pole facing out. I have 3 black 1" toroids. First has windings with #30 wire, 5H, 10 Ohm and probably 600 windings (dual winding like Ossie's), second is 67 windings (dual winding like Ossie's) of #26 wire, 234mH and 0.6 Ohm, third is 67 windings (one wire) of #26 wire, 0.6 Ohms and 225mH. I tried Ossie's high power circuit (with 2n3055), Ossie's low power circuit and your circuit all with only one toroid. It will run only with high power circuit and it consumes lots of power. All runs were done with 12V battery and for first toroid consumption is 0.3A, for other two is 1.7A. When I am using your circuit my hall sensor gets so hot after 2 seconds that I have to turn it off.
Thanks,
Erkan