STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[PaulLowrance]

Hy, all...


I'm an italian researcher,
I'm very curious in ossie motor!
@woopy...
Wath is wattage drain by your motor during test?

a doubt, anyone tried to replace battery with cap? (eventually ultracapacitor?)
thank..goog work
-D-

Well you're not suppose to ask those questions, LOL!     That would pretty much end the distractions of completely-non-Steorn replications, and people might actually start researching the Orbo and getting close to a self-runner.

My recommendation to all legit researchers is to stick to the Orbo designs, or a least something close. And that means no massive air cores. Also I would ignore the people who are trying to passively throw rocks at Steorn, and btw those people are passively pushing for the massive air core replications. Steorn *DID* show the proof, but you have to understand electronics 101-- I^2 * R.

Congratulations Steorn! End of the Paid Posters era coming to an end soon. 

[PaulLowrance]

You guys serously have to build an Ossie motor.

What's the input & output power of this massive air core non-Steorn replication? Hmmmm???

After countless posts, you would think that all of these people who keep asking everyone to build one of these ossie motors would have took the time to do some efficiency measurements by now. Well, I did that on my "tiny orbo replication," and one setup it was 250% efficient, and another setup (lower current) it was 170% efficient. As *PREDICTED* years ago, I said that the real deal posted at this forum would be ignored like the plague. Prediction fulfilled!  :(

[PaulLowrance]

Also the recent Steorn Talks videos (2) have been up on the Steorn Official YouTube page since yesterday along with another video, "SKDB learning resources" -->

http://www.youtube.com/steornofficial

[exnihiloest]

You guys serously have to build an Ossie motor.
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Please open another thread for that. Ossie motor is a very different motor with a conventional  functionning.
It is desirable to not pollute the Steorn thread with obviously unrelated matter.

[Omega_0]

While we wait for the actual raw data which will be dumped on their site hopefully, here is some analysis of the scope shot. It shows a full revolution of the rotor.
I'm just trying to see what happens as the magnet pair flies past the input and output coils.

Output side
The orange staircase is obviously accumulated values of (I^2)*R. The pickup coil is shorted (full load or short circuit test, for those who know how we test a generator), so the output voltage is 0. The value is always positive because the square of the current will always be positive, although the actual current will oscillate in both directions. Assuming it as roughly a sin wave, an integral (using wolformalpha) is shown below, which is identical to steorn's plot. So I guess, they are honestly showing the integrals here.
You can see that as the magnet pair crosses the pickup coil (placed at 45 deg from TDC), it produces energy and then there is no increase in energy till next cycle. The energy gain is the difference shown.
Only problem here is that you can make the output look bigger simply by plugging a big value of R in the scope.

Input side
Input is difficult to understand and you can guess why they did not use a wattmeter or voltmeter to measure it. Wattmeters are designed for sine waveforms and will not show correct reading for pulsed waves. And a voltmeter won't work here because there are huge flyback pulses. Many people are fooling themselves by using normal meters for complex waveforms.

The pulse starts are TDC and goes off at 25 deg. This causes the peak in energy, which is V*I. Now here is the tricky part, you would expect the energy curve to stay there as no more energy is getting consumed, and you'd expect it to go up again at the next pulse, starting from the present value. But it falls down, which means energy is being added in the battery.

Notice that if I flows in reverse, the energy becomes (-V*I), and we see the same here when the flyback comes as soon as the pulse ends at 25 deg. Now steorn have cleverly set the scope so that it takes the direction of current into account at the input side, so you see a fall in curve, which is actually a gain in energy.

Not all energy comes back, and you can see a net loss, which is small compared to the net loss at the output, so it appears that this system is OU.

Waiting for third party confirmation ......
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