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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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mikestocks2006

Folks looking at the trace picture, and listening to Mr Sean McCarthy on this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPaE78qnXks
regarding the trace at around 1:04
-question from the audience: “ does the trace definitively prove that orbo is overunity?”
-and Mr Sean McCarthy replies: “.. the answer is no, you have to take the summary of the three tests..”
So at his point the actuall data and methodology needs to be analyzed including a robust measurement error analysis, and assumptions stipulated, in order to arrive at some more definite conclusion for either or not this is overunity.

Thanks Omega_0 for posting the trace pic, and also thanks ltseung888, infringer and ofc reeeeeely for capturing it especially the Q&A section.

Mike
ps: I'd like to echo exnihiloest's comment, great work from Ossie and replicators, however; it maybe easier to follow if this thread mainly focused on the Dublin demo, or maybe the latest demo needs a new thread all by itself? A lot of these builds are also interelated or spawn out of the initial orbo build attempts.
Nice work folks, nice work.


gravityblock

The latest demo talks were short and sweet.  An OU technology is not an easy cookie to sell or for people to accept.  I think Steorn has provided enough proof for further research and development so this technology has an opportunity to get into the market place.

GB

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

vorrex

something in the latest steorn demo that caught my attention was a circular dark object behind the neo magnets inside the rotor.
It looks like a metal circular disk about the size of a coin, if so it would create a virtual horseshoe magnet effect.   

Omnibus

@Omega_0,

Great analysis. Everyone interested in this subject should read it carefully and should try to understand it. Steorn have found a simple yet very elegant way to prove OU conclusively.

As for the Ohmic resistance, as far as I understand they have attached a resistor of known resistance in the circuit of the pickup coil and this value is what they've plugged in the scope to obtain the staircase (output energy) trace.

Also, they have specifically indicated that the vertical resolution for both traces is the same (in case it occurs to someone to question it).

Everything so far points to a new dawn in the search for overunity. This should be reproduced by as many people as possible and the sooner the better.

Omnibus

@Omega_0,

Just a little detail concerning this:

QuoteNow here is the tricky part, you would expect the energy curve to stay there as no more energy is getting consumed, and you'd expect it to go up again at the next pulse, starting from the present value. But it falls down, which means energy is being added in the battery.

Unfortunately, that gain in energy during the downfall (which should be subtracted from the input energy) is not added to the battery because at the off-duty 75% period the battery is disconnected from the coil.

That was just a detail. Great analysis otherwise.

How do you connect your explanation of the net input energy (called by you "Energy Loss In") with the fact that that the net input energy should also be roughly V*I - I^2R ? Is "Energy Loss In" only V*I - I^2R or there's more to it (inductive loss, domain reorientation energy, etc. which should also be subtracted from I*V to get the correct "Energy Loss In" )?