STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[PaulLowrance]

If the lag bothers you guys in high perm cores then just add bias current. In metglas we're talking about micro amps. It doesn't matter in metglas because the lag does not take any measurable power since the current is nearly zero amps during the lag. Personally I like the lag (few microseconds) because it gives time to prime the mosfet capacitance, lol.

btw, the lag is not magnetic viscosity. It's just the brief period when the core permeability is high.

[teslaalset]

Give me your e-mail address because I don't want to water down this discussion, devoted to Steorn.

Edit: O.K., you got it. I sent the link through the e-mail function of this forum. Note also, I don't want to discuss it at this time.

Got it. Thanks a lot.
Agree not to clutter this thread.

[LarryC]

One of Orbo secrets?

The proving overunity part 1 video showed test of the Orbo and Pulse running and firing with the magnets and without the magnets.

The first pic shows the trace of the Pulse motor. The blue is with the magnets and the pink is without the magnets. The cemf is obvious and the expected inductive rise and fall can be seen.

The second pic shows the trace of the Orbo motor. Both traces are the same and no or almost none inductive rise and fall. How is that possible? The inductive time constant used to graph the rise and fall is equal to L/R. So it can be reduced by increased resistance or reduced inductance. The trace without the magnet should have been different.

After much analyst, it occurred to me that it seemed to be working like a high loaded transformer where the secondary decreases the back emf in the primary.

I don't have an Orbo motor, but I did wind an Orbo coil based on Ossie's technique. So I shorted one of the wires and used the other for input, like a 1 to 1 transformer.

I manually tapped the input with a D cell and watched on the scope.

It worked!!!!! Traced V and I the same as Stern's and without a magnet.

Haven't tried, but it should also eliminate CEMF from a moving magnet.

Would appreciate if anyone with a replication would test. Should be easy with an Ossie winding.

Just a comment on the constant core discussions. Steorn has stated on their forum that the material was not that important, but it could be used to maximize performance.

Regards,
Larry

[hekkmekk]

So far it's very interesting to see the theoretical aspects behind the "orbo interaction".

So let's say for now all the equations are true, and there is the movement of the rotor for free.
How to use it practically?

They subtract the I^2R from the input. But after all, that is as far as I understood it, the I^2R is actually there.
Even if there is done work for free, I can't see how to use it.
Most of the energy goes to heat, the rotor movement is like a little waste.
So combination with sterlingmotor?

Can someone please enlighten me

[Omnibus]

Just proving that CoE can be violated, as has already been done and now that Seorn does it too, is a revolution in science. There cannot be anything more practical than the far-reaching consequences such revolution in science can bring about. What exact practical devices will inevitably come about as a result of such change and how this or that form of energy produced can or cannot be used is a moot point in comparison with the magnitude of such drastic development and isn't even worth discussing at this time.

By the way Orbo has nothing to do with Sterling motor. The excess energy Orbo produces is genuine excess energy as can be seen here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8411.msg226474#msg226474

Mind you this, the fact that you don't see at this point how a particular kind of energy produced (heat in this case) can be used doesn't mean that energy can be neglected as produced energy. On the contrary, when doing the energy balance all energy produced must be considered and it is that overall quantity of energy that is to be compared with the overall input energy. As seen this comparison in the case of Orbo shows that the former is greater than the latter. Whether or not you may consider this or that particular type of the energies as useless at a given moment has nothing to do with the importance and even the principal practicality of that dramatic finding.