STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[PaulLowrance]

One more thing. I've not seen a single one replication using an original ORBO's toroid/magnets setup so far. I mean the toroids set up vertically, with the toroid's hole facing two magnets. I think it should be better than JLN's setup (I've written earlier why exactly).

I can hardly wait to get to that point, but so far have not even reached the point of placing my 2nd toroid in, lol.  Using the dual magnets would be my first choice, but I used what was available in the garage and lab. My experience with the "tiny orbo replication" so far shows that the dual magnet could significantly increase the efficiency. This is based on a lot of thought on my orbo experiments, which are showing that it's best for the attraction between the magnet and toroid to fade as soon as possible; e.g., from 30 degrees to 20 degrees pulse width. The obvious reason is so the pulse current can be shortened to save power. So far the killer to preventing a self-runner is the losses from electrical resistance to maintain the pulse current. A field from a single open-faced magnet decreases at a lower rate relative to distance compared to a dual magnet where the poles are opposite. Sorry for the poor description. Maybe you get the idea.

[wings]

Hi All,

Please see this latest  from JLN.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/indexen.htm#patent

This US government patent shows a method that can be used to reduce CEMF in toroid coils to zero by means of an additional coil wound circularly in normal fashion around the toroid's core and then wired in series or parallel with the toroid coil such that the current flow of any induce CEMF in each coil opposes each other. As long as the number of turns of this additional coil is equal to the number of times the toroid coils windings complete a full circle around the circumference of the core then it is possible to reduce any total CEMF induced in the coils to zero.

Here is perhaps a better explanation from JLN himself.

"The patent is very interesting because it say that in a common toroidal coil each layer are equal of one coil turn along the axis of the toroid. So, a one layer of toroidal coil is equal to a flat coil of one turn and thus it can catch or produce emf outside. So, to counter this, the only thing to do is to wound a one tun coil along the main axis of the toroid so as to create a magnetic field which nullify the virtual one turn coil created by the one layer toroidal coil... This is simple be this is a very important thing to do for canceling the weak CEMF induced in the toroid... "

This once again is an amazing find by JLN.

Regards,

Ossie

Yes when you wond a toroid you have not ony put coil around a toroid but you have also one loop along the toroid axis.

.... might be interesting to repeat the vector potential experiment with one orizontal loop-back to correct the horizontal loop , to check if the vector potential effect is real .

http://jnaudin.free.fr/vpexp/index.htm

[mondrasek]

This was posted very early in this thread:  http://exvacuo.free.fr/div/Sciences/Experiences/Telos/

Maybe it was by Lumen?  I thought it important enough to save, but sorry I do no exactly remember who contributed it.  Thanks though!

M.

[gravityblock]

My measurements using a Metglas core show 170% efficiency (less electrical resistance from wires & the mosfet), and that's not using the energy that could be captured back from the cores inductance, which several days ago I verified can be recaptured, thus making it far over 170% efficiency.

You're now saying your "tiny orbo replication" is 3400% efficient after recovery 95% of the energy from the core and it's based on using only 1 metglas core, http://globalfreeenergy.info/2010/02/11/tiny-orbo-replication-major-update/

When you first calculated the permeability of the core Steorn was using you said it was 2.7 million, http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8411.msg222113#msg222113

All of the information you post is based on your own wants and desires for your calculations.  You can't deny the video where Sean was referring to the problem being the "tape drives".  You can't deny there has been an unkown magnetic effect in the old fashioned tape drives.  You can't deny the M-H Curves being discussed in the SKDB materials.  You can't deny the information in Steorn's patent.

What I have posted is based on what Sean has said in a video, the patent, and what is being shown in the SKDB materials while what you are posting is based on your outrageous calculations that are obviously in error.  3400% effecient, but yet you can't get it to self-run.  You don't need magnetic bearings to self-run it if you have a 3400% efficiency, lol.

My research is legit and your research is not.  You're research is based on your own calculations that are wrong while ruling everything else out.


GB 

[PaulLowrance]

Ah, still desperately trying to find a fight with someone?

You're now saying your "tiny orbo replication" is 3400% efficient after recovery 95% of the energy from the core and it's based on using only 1 metglas core, http://globalfreeenergy.info/2010/02/11/tiny-orbo-replication-major-update/

3400% if you recapture 95% of the energy into inductance. 170% if you do not.

When you first calculated the permeability of the core Steorn was using you said it was 2.7 million, http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8411.msg222113#msg222113

If you would read my posts you would see that the 1 million permeability is for saturation, and 2.7 million is peak from a core that is not saturated. You seem to be confusing yourself.

All of the information you post is based on your own wants and desires for your calculations.

Nothing to do with desires. Sorry.

You can't deny the video where Sean was referring to the problem being the "tape drives".  You can't deny there has been an unkown magnetic effect in the old fashioned tape drives.  You can't deny the M-H Curves being discussed in the SKDB materials.

Who cares about deny something he said. You're jumping to conclusions. Even if Sean did discover the effect from drive tapes, then you're making a massive assumption that he has not taken that effect and turned it into something useful, such as using a useful core. If you think Steorn is using cores made from tape drives, then go build & test it. I'd give it nealy zero chance of working well.

What I have posted is based on what Sean has said in a video and what is being shown in the SKDB materials while what you are posting is based on your outrageous calculations that are obviously in error.  3400% effecient, but yet you can't get it to self-run.  You don't need magnetic bearings to self-run it if you have a 3400% efficiency, lol.

My research is legit and your research is not.  You're research is based on your own calculations that are wrong while ruling everything else out.

I can't get it to self-run you say. What an angry negative little one you are? I'm working on decreasing losses from electrical resistance relative to output, if you cared to know. I don't have time to argue with you little emotional one. If you think there are errors in my efficiency calculations then by all means show them.

As far as your research, IMO it's good for a laugh. By all means build your plastic tape drive core and see for yourself. Correcting your errors got old long ago. These days I just let you find your own errors rather then trying to help you.