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[teslaalset]

Yeah, I'm having problems with my Excel. Will see what I can do about it.

Main thing is, I'm trying to understand what you've done. How did you generate the data for the current and voltage as well as the phase shift?

Ah, stupid me, I know why you can't change the numbers.
You have to be able to use complex numbers.
This is optional in Excel.
This is done as follows:

Install the Analysis ToolPak if COMPLEX returns the #NAME? error value. Select the Add-Ins menu item from the Tools menu, check the box next to the Analysis ToolPak and click on the OK button to install the Analysis ToolPak.

Have done so, you should be able to change the yellow highlighted numbers.

Are you familiar with complex numbers?
If not, it's a bit difficult to explain in a few words how I calculated all values, this is used in EE mathematics.

[Omnibus]

@teslaalset,

Must be something else. Tried changing the add-ins to no avail.

Complex numbers are not the problem. That's trivial. The problem might be the way power is calculated. First thing that has to be checked is that the question does not contain the answer (petitio principii). I've noticed that logical inconsistency is widely spread in those circles.

[LarryC]

@Teslaalset,

Very impressive skills. Thanks for coming here, as someone like you was truly needed to stop the misleading. The Omni group usually tries to dismiss and attack anyone trying to show the truth. But in your case it will be very difficult.

Are you an EE?

Regards, Larry   

[Omnibus]

@LarryC,

Like I said, this isn't an educational site but I'll try to help you nevertheless. Read the first sentence in this link: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/powerac.html. Then, notice in the second sentence that hyperphysics speaks of rms or effective voltage and current. So, as a first step, learn the difference between rms and instantaneous values of these quantities and try to somehow understand that rms values are used when instantaneous values are unavailable. When instantaneous values of the current and voltage are available, as in the here discussed case, we do not use the rms values. To calculate power through the knowledge of the instantaneous values, as in the case here, is the really accurate way to do it but it is a big deal and that is by no means an everyday opportunity for an electrical technician. Therefore, for convenience, electrical technicians use rms values which, as hyperphysics instructs you (read the second sentence of the link I gave you) almost always (notice the word 'almost') is given by the formula within that second sentence. Try first to understand this.

[Omnibus]

@teslaalset,

Recall the theory behind this finding: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8411.msg246674#msg246674. Therefore, what we're looking for here is to find such conditions (such capacitance) which will not only change the voltage measured across the whole system (across capacitance plus resistance and not only across the resistance) but will also change the current in such a way that the new current, in addition to leading the voltage, will have a value different from the value of the current which would correspond by Ohm's law to that new, changed voltage and resistance.

Here's an example of a simulation, based on your I and V data but with a proper phase shift (current leading voltage) for, say 0.001Ohm resistance. Try to find conditions (by changing the capacitance value) where such relationship can be observed experimentally. Maybe you can suggest a different Ohmic resistance value. That's fine, as long as that could simulate a real experiment. With this sim I'm showing you that simulation of the experimentally observed effect is possible. Also, notice, we're not interested in anything else but the real part of the impedance and the overall spent energy, based on the I and V applied to the whole system. Never mind other details.