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@All,

I'm continuing here the discussion of the experimental side of these OU projects connected with electrical measurements. All of them (I'm talking about the legitimate experiments made competently) suffer from the same sick approach by the mainstream science and that has to be fought.

A rigorous researcher puts more and more requirements before the methodology of the measurement. That requires investments beyond the reach not only of individuals but even of the better endowed labs. I see, for instance, @broli is preparing to get an LC meter but the price ranges there are horrendous -- from 50 or so dollars to close to 17 grand: http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/product.jspx?cc=US&lc=eng&ckey=715495&nid=-34124.536908436.00&id=715495 . That only for the LC meter. Altogether, considering the high-end scopes, appropriate probes etc. this easily amounts to 50 grand if not even 100 grand and more. However, even if one manages to get that precise equipment there still are major problems with the data processing. As I've shown, for instance, Riemann integration doesn't guarantee the most accurate outcome. I won't be amazed if it turns out that the numerical solutions of the Navier-Stokes equations which @P-Motion mentions in his thread suffer from this weakness which may be the real cause for those instabilities in the methods for solving the difference equations. These problems may be found across the board where there are numerical solutions.

Getting back to the electrical measurements -- show me one paper in the mainstream scientific literature, in any of the prestigious peer-reviewed journals, with exemplary experimental results of power balances especially of complex form signals. I can challenge it on the same grounds the experiments of Steorn or any of the quality work in the OU community is challenged. Even more -- based on what I've already shown you, I'll challenge it regarding the inevitable numerical part that any such study contains. So, where in the mainstream literature are those data proving the validity of CoE in electrical systems? I guarantee you, such can't be found. Again, anything that would be presented can be challenged on exactly the same basis the quality experimental work in OU is being challenged. In this respect the mainstream isn't less of a voodoo science than the OU research many of the zealous activists claim it is. This is a dead-end on both sides of the barricade -- both for those who maintain that electrical systems obey CoE and for those who deny it. Don't tell me those who deny CoE are first to prove it. I maintain, and I've proved it definitively, that those who claim that CoE is always obeyed in electrical systems not only can't prove that but, as I've already shown, that truth is exactly the opposite -- under certain circumstances CoE can be violated in electrical systems beyond a shadow of a doubt. I've shown that under certain circumstances that's the case in mechanical systems as well. So, what are we, those that have proved that CoE can be violated, supposed to do to get that fact across to the mainstream? As I said above, no level of investment in more and more accurate apparatus will suffice. Also, to require engineering development leading to a self-sustaining device and to think that that's gonna be the solution, means to reject the role of the scientific argumentation -- no such rejection of the scientific argumentation and method is observed anywhere in the mainstream. So, that double standard is also tacky and unacceptable. This is really the heart of the matter and we shouldn't continue to bump our heads against the wall but should find ways to get out of this situation and require that the mainstream recognize the validity of the OU claims. But how? What shall we do? Any thoughts?

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@Groundloop,

Are you still up to eventually figuring out how to close the loop in this latest example. Probably we should discuss it a little bit. I'd like to hear your opinion about designing a converter. Would it be viable at all?

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I know it's mid August and everybody is on vacation but still there may be someone reading who is in the know of designing electronic circuits besides @Groundloop and @poynt99. Wonder if @gyulasun would be one? The word is about closing the loop in those electric circuits I've been studying recently. Give a buss. I'll be coming back periodically.

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@All,

I was thinking I have to get to the next level, that is, replace the pulse generator by a capacitor and a schematic to form the sine waves and the offset I was using in the experiments. Any thoughts?