STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[hartiberlin]

ClanZer has put together this page:

http://www.orbo.org.uk/

There he shows his builds and some kits.

Regards, Stefan.

[hartiberlin]

Independent Magnetic viscosity tests:

http://sites.google.com/site/steornlab/home

[plengo]

So far looking at those eOrbos replications and all the talks we have here it sounds like this is no different than a regular Bedini monopole (no pun intended, please dont shoot me for it).

I see the same effect with a Bedini monopole and this eOrbo-toroid concerning the "interferance" of both the toroid and the rotor magnets. Now, the magnets on the rotor of the monopole are not only attracted to the cores of the coil but also repelled when the coil receives a pulse from the source circuitry and the coil reverse its magnetic polarity. In the case of the eOrbo we have a nullification of the attraction of the rotor's magnet and the core of the toroid but no repulsion so far because of the pulse that the toroid receives. We do have a lot less copper though!

My questions would be then: Does that difference really matters? Is not the Monopole superior because it also provides an extra repulsion? (In superior I mean in terms of energy/motion generated). Don't we still have to make the rotation of such weak rotor motion into electrical or usable energy that would overcome the power used to generate the pulses that create the magnetic fluxes in the toroid / coils? Don't both systems "wastes" the energy used to generate the magnetic flux on the monopole-coil or eorbo-toroid as heat?

I have been playing with many Bedini motors and all have this amazing economical usage in power and great rotation speed on the rotors (even better than all the eOrbo replications I have seen so far) but I have not seen any OU except in the charging of the battery (which is a totally different beast here).

Fausto.

[captainpecan]

So far looking at those eOrbos replications and all the talks we have here it sounds like this is no different than a regular Bedini monopole (no pun intended, please dont shoot me for it).

I see the same effect with a Bedini monopole and this eOrbo-toroid concerning the "interferance" of both the toroid and the rotor magnets. Now, the magnets on the rotor of the monopole are not only attracted to the cores of the coil but also repelled when the coil receives a pulse from the source circuitry and the coil reverse its magnetic polarity. In the case of the eOrbo we have a nullification of the attraction of the rotor's magnet and the core of the toroid but no repulsion so far because of the pulse that the toroid receives. We do have a lot less copper though!

My questions would be then: Does that difference really matters? Is not the Monopole superior because it also provides an extra repulsion? (In superior I mean in terms of energy/motion generated). Don't we still have to make the rotation of such weak rotor motion into electrical or usable energy that would overcome the power used to generate the pulses that create the magnetic fluxes in the toroid / coils? Don't both systems "wastes" the energy used to generate the magnetic flux on the monopole-coil or eorbo-toroid as heat?

I have been playing with many Bedini motors and all have this amazing economical usage in power and great rotation speed on the rotors (even better than all the eOrbo replications I have seen so far) but I have not seen any OU except in the charging of the battery (which is a totally different beast here).

Fausto.

To be perfectly honest, I've been wondering the same thing.  Most of the effects are seen in the monopole.  Now, since I am not done with my replication, I can't say for sure either way, but I do have a few Bedini's built to compare.

I also am not sure that the overunity effect they are planning to measure, would not also be seen in most any pulse motor already.  For instance, it appears they are planning on showing that all the energy used, is lost as heat.  Then the motion of the rotor is free.  To be honest, I do think this is an aspect of most pulse motors.  Now the amount of torque is a different story.  Also, there are some key aspects are different here.  So we will just have to wait and see I guess.  I do however wonder if steorn really has a self runner yet, or if they are just basing all their claims on adding the conversion of heat to the mix.  While it is true, that has to be calculated and is very important, what everyone wants to see is everything getting converted back into more electrical energy out than put in.  Overunity or not, I do not really need a motor that just heats up faster than it should, lol... We'll see, I still have high hopes.

[Cap-Z-ro]

Further to mondrasek...

TinselKoala may be a little opinionated at times...but he deserves respect for having the strength of character to admit when he is wrong.

Please be civil to each other...after all we are working to improve life for everyone on the planet.

There can be not be more uniting team oriented goal than that.

Regards...