STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[billmehess]

Thats what I have been saying K4zep, replace the battery with a cap. Sean will never do this he is well aware of the fact that the device will stop and the charade will be over with. He is hopeing that showing some sort of device appearing to be creating an OU condition will allow the investor dollars to keep pouring in.
It's ALL smoke and mirrors!!
All the talk about how Orbo (rhymes with horrible) could be working is all nonsence.
Like I have said it's simple a battery running a motor.

[Freezer]

Electronics 101:  V = Q/C.

In this case, Q = ((starting charge) - (current x time to run motor) + (current x time from the energy return))

If the energy returned from the Steorn motor is greater than the energy required to run it, the cap voltage will go up.

If the energy returned from the Steorn motor is less than the energy required to run it, the cap voltage will go down.

A capacitor is essentially 100% efficient in absorbing the energy returned from the motor whereas a battery is not 100% efficient.  Therefore a capacitor would be a better energy source for demonstrating a self-runner than a battery.

It's not the same as a battery, it's better than a battery for this application.

MileHigh

Too bad your fancy equations don't factor in radiant energy, or even acknowledge that it exists.

It's not the same as a battery, it's better than a battery for this application.
MileHigh

I'll take Bedini's word over yours any day, yes Bedini, a person who actually builds and experiments.

[k4zep]

Thats what I have been saying K4zep, replace the battery with a cap. Sean will never do this he is well aware of the fact that the device will stop and the charade will be over with. He is hopeing that showing some sort of device appearing to be creating an OU condition will allow the investor dollars to keep pouring in.
It's ALL smoke and mirrors!!
All the talk about how Orbo (rhymes with horrible) could be working is all nonsence.
Like I have said it's simple a battery running a motor.

I agree, until he shows it running on a cap with no voltage drop and/or a net gain in the cap or battery, it is what it is.

[billmehess]

There has been no defenitive proof that "radiant energy" exists. Its all mump jumbo, as far as Bedini goes none of his work has shown to be even close to valid. If his claims were provable he would have picked up his Nobel prize years ago. Show me one example where any of his claims have been validated by legit
science.
In the search for OU there has grown a tremendous lore of unprovable and unsubstantiated work. Where's the working units, where's the proof!
Is this really to much to ask for?

[MileHigh]

Freezer:

You can't just "pluck 'radiant energy' out of thin air" to advance your argument.  Sean says that more power is being returned to the battery by the return wire that connects to the battery.

Actually I did do the experiments.  I made the measurements that show that the energy in a pulse discharge from an inductor is less than or nearly equal to the battery energy that energized the inductor in the first place.  That means that Bedini's "radiant energy" is B.S.  I read his 1984 "Kromrey Convertor" 15-page treatise and I almost puked from how little sense he made when discussing electricity and batteries.

So why don't YOU do the experiments.  Hook up any Bedini motor or Joule Thief or whatever your favourite flavour of pulsing inductor circuit you want and measure the power supplied by the battery compared to the power you get from the pulsing inductor.  In all cases you will find the output power is less than the input power, and you produce heat.  The output power plus the heat will equal the input power.  "Radiant energy" is just a buzz word to get you excited and induce you to believe in something that's not there.  You can prove for yourself that it is not there if you really want to.

MileHigh