STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[broli]

You shouldn't get to hung on the term fly"back". Think of it as the inductor wanting to keep the momentum of the current going. When the voltage source is removed or flipped the inductor produces a voltage to maintain current flow. In AC this results in a phase shift and 0 energy dissipation (perfect inductor). In DC this results in energy being dumped back into the source in a perfect linear fashion (again for perfect inductors).

[k4zep]

There is supposed to be a series of additional talks/experiments in January so perhaps we will learn more then.

By the way, I sincerely apologize for repeating myself about this. But could you explain to me that circuit you mentioned earlier that uses diodes/bridge rectifier to put flyback current back into the battery? I'm just really eager to learn how this can be done. I am planning on building a pulse motor and want to use the concept. I've read about the Bedini motors and how they charge a seperate battery, but that does not sound too interesting to me. I want to know how to charge the same battery I'm using (if it turns out to be OU or not).

Hi IOU,

Hang loose on the battery charging circuit.  I want to be sure before I post anything on that.  I know how the Bedini works as have built lots of them but this is a different turkey  Just for thought, a separate coil for isolation and then a FAST high peak current FWBR offset for battery switching voltage ought to work but time will tell.  I'm not ignoring your question, just want to be sure.  Working on video of voltage and current, can only do so much so fast and I am NOT a video edit type person.......arrggghhh.

Respectfully
Ben

[k4zep]

You shouldn't get to hung on the term fly"back". Think of it as the inductor wanting to keep the momentum of the current going. When the voltage source is removed or flipped the inductor produces a voltage to maintain current flow. In AC this results in a phase shift and 0 energy dissipation (perfect inductor). In DC this results in energy being dumped back into the source in a perfect linear fashion (again for perfect inductors).

I agree, looking at the Inductive kickback EMF pulse, while voltage is very high under no clamp or load suitation, when loaded into a diode across coil (which adds to motor power as it is bi-directional as far as voltage/current is concerned) the area under that waveform is just a small precentage of the waveform driving the rotor, hence it is NOT the source of OU in this motor/generator!  Remember that in this motor, inductance is virtually cancled out so you do NOT have the large BEMF pulse you normally see...That is part of the genius of this motor.

Respectfully
Ben

[exnihiloest]

...
Remember that in this motor, inductance is virtually cancled out so you do NOT have the large BEMF pulse you normally see...That is part of the genius of this motor.
...

BEMF is easily recoverabe, it is done every day in conventional electronics devices. To recover BEMF is not related in any way with overunity.

[broli]

BEMF is easily recoverabe, it is done every day in conventional electronics devices. To recover BEMF is not related in any way with overunity.

Sure it isn't since you have tried every possible arrangement conceivable to mankind or any alien race to absolutely prove this, right? I'm sure Tesla was a blockhead using simple inductive and capacitance laws to do things 1 million EE's combined can't do today.

I don't want to touch too much on this subject since that's not what Steorn is mainly focusing on. The recovery process discussed here was solely for the purpose of recovering the inductive energy whether it's lower or higher than input is irrelevant so far. But Steorn made a small side note that it's in fact higher. This thread has some good momentum behind it with already decent experimentation beginning. I will politely ask you to either contribute to encourage positive progress or not disturb the progress with your short sighted believes. Thank you for your understanding.