STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[tagor]

I'm very open minded about Steorn having the smoking gun, but the people who keep saying there's not bemf are wrong, and I've already explained it. Again, you cannot do the bemf tests without any current in toroid coil. The toroid coil *must* have current going through it if you want to see the bemf. Many pages back in this thread I told Ben how to measure this, and how it's working, but it seems this was ignored.

IMO the excess energy effect, if any, is in the magnetic viscosity.

Enjoy

look at this :

http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/index.htm

[hartiberlin]

Hi Ben,
many thanks for your verifications.

So I was not far off with my numbers from the scopeshots
and the number are in the right range.

Well, to optimize
your current motor, I would wind additional 300 windings
onto the toroidal coil or as many as you can get on there.

So this will give you a much higher L and  gives you
much more BackEMF extraction power and you
need to raise the supply voltage and switch on
for less than tau=L/R time.

Regards, Stefan.

[k4zep]

look at this :

http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/index.htm

I have been following him for years!!!!  Right on.  I wonder if there is an English translation.  I can sort of read the french enough to get the just of the subject but need more accurate information.  GREAT someone else has jumped in there and JLN is good.

Respectfully
Ben

[hartiberlin]

look at this :

http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/index.htm

Wow, Jean Louis shows exactly that there is no
CounterEMF induced during the rotation of the wheel,
like Ben also has already proven with his low numbers.

But as JL has 2 coils in series also the last rest of the
induction voltage is canceled when rotating manually
and measuring the CounterEMF.

Well done Jean Louis !

Regards, Stefan.

[Omnibus]

Hi Ben,

Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.

Steorn has’t yet shown proof for overunity. 

Correct

However, Steorn has shown practical elimination of back emf. How is that conventional? 

Actually a bifilar coil does eliminate BEMF OR as the motor will run the same direction on either direction of current flow, you can wire even multiples of toroids in bucking mode, balanced inductance and resistance and balance out the back EMF, both works.[/1uote]

That’s well and good. In addition, it seems Steorn show a spinning rotor. Thus, while the first may be conceivable, the spinning isn’t at all to be expected.

I haven’t even seen yet proof that even the negligible back emf is due to the presence of the rotor. It very well may be that that’s due to imperfections in the making of the coil and will show itself even in absence of rotor. @k4zep may help us easily in clarifying this -- show the osciloscope traces i absence of rotor and see iif there's the same slight back emf.

JUST CHECKED, background output of non energized coil is less than 2 mv pp, looks like noise, nothing to photograph.

Ben, the oscilloscope traces I have in mind are always taken when the coil is energized. Thus, energize the coils and show what the oscilloscope patern is when there’s no rotor present and then show the patterns when a rotor is present. When I discuss this I always have in mind energized coils.