STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[Omnibus]

Omnibus,

I would also point out that Thane drives his motor with a triac which makes it a pulse motor. If he didn't, the motor could not accelerate since it would be inductively coupled to the mains.

The Only difference is a toroidal coil verses a coaxial coil. It's odd how people don't see what is in front of them an put it all together.

This difference (toroidal versus coaxial coil) will be insubstantial if Thane Heins had shown that the input energy is used only to saturate the cores of the coils and no part of it is used to drive the rotor. There should be evidence that the rotor is only driven through the magnetic interactions between the cores and the permanent magnets of the rotor.  Is there any such proof in Thane Heins' demos? Conclusive proof of that is still pending with regard to Orbo as well. That's a crucial requirement to constitute these motors as OU.

[Reincarnate]

This difference (toroidal versus coaxial coil) will be insubstantial if Thane Heins had shown that the input energy is used only to saturate the cores of the coils and no part of it is used to drive the rotor. There should be evidence that the rotor is only driven through the magnetic interactions between the cores and the permanent magnets of the rotor.  Is there any such proof in Thane Heins' demos? Conclusive proof of that is still pending with regard to Orbo as well. That's a crucial requirement to constitute these motors as OU.

If I understand your question / statement, Thane does use the power from the pickup coils and feeds that back into the motor and has the motor down to using <10 watts.

I sent him the information that would allow him to make that a self runner but don't know if he will try it. He tends to not listen and do his own thing, hence the username crankypants?

[Omnibus]

If I understand your question / statement, Thane does use the power from the pickup coils and feeds that back into the motor and has the motor down to using just a few watts.

If you mean by that that rotor turns at the expense of a few watts from the power supply then not only that's not an Orbo but its OU status is questionable. Rotor should not use any of the energy supplied by the power source.

Mind you that we already have Paul Sprain's machine and that isn't Orbo either in a sense that the power input in Sprain's machine is not recoverable. It is spent to overcome the sticky spot. It may still be an OU machine (not yet proven conclusively) but for different reasons than Orbo.

[wings]

Hi All,

To dream further on down the line, use a small dedicated micro like the Arduino for overall control of all variables as needed, it goes on and on....It just depends on how creative the programmer/builder is.........But that is for later.  Oh the webs we weave!

Ben K4ZEP

Hi all

coincidence!

Yesterday I bought the Arduino manual thinking about how to solve the switch timing .

assuming that you need 5° accuracy timing with a 2500RPM you have 0.33 millisecond to run the software instructions it is enough??

A pratical solution is to use magnet pais like in the original video, in this case with N and S magnet you can reduce the interaction area improving the timing, increase the torque .... but reducing the effect and speed.

Instead to use a standard ferrite toroid ... wy not use a magnet toroid facing with opposit to the rotating magnet, like to Ossie experiment.

Ben , Ossie , Stefan all
Thanks for the information you have given me so far

Stefan please stop the music

[callanan]

Hi All,

Here is where I got my coil cores from. The description contains the dimensions.

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=LO1234&keywords=core&form=KEYWORD

I have about 20 metres of 0.5mm thick wire total wound on these cores for the coils in my Steorn replication test motor. I have wound the cores as quadfilar to make winding easier and then simply connected all the 4 wires in series to make a single winding. I have put as much wire length and turns of this thickness wire (0.5mm) that I could fit in the cores and still be able to mount them with cable ties.

Regards,

Ossie

Hi All,

For those wanting more detail on how I make my toroidal coils. Please see the following videos which are in 3 parts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DytXteB9XLI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQAz7AjecQc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBUJJgaV4CQ


Regards,

Ossie