STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[captainpecan]

I just got done winding my new toroid.  I went ahead and tried using a steel bushing I got from the local hardware store for the core.  I know the properties of steel are not always desirable for these motors, but I wanted to try the much less permeability aspect. It's actually no different than a washer with a bigger hole in the middle.  I used 1500 turns of #26 wire (took all night to wind).  I am reworking the whole rotor design, so I did not get a chance to test for a runner yet.  But I did do jean's test.  With my last ferrite toroids that drank current, using jeans test would BARELY drop 1 half inch neo when hit with 12 volts.  This thin steel bushing core, with 1500 turns, drops 6, 3/4" neo's stacked like it was nothing.  So I think I am in business.  Thanks for the details on all of your work, it's extremely appreciated.  I know steel is not supposed to work as well, but I'll give it a shot with 1 toroid anyway and see, who knows.  Much lower permeability may prove worth while.

[Reincarnate]

Efficiency of the motor is none of our problems when discussing OU devices. It shouldn't even be mentioned. The crucial question is are there experiments proving that Thane Heins' rotor doesn't draw energy from the power supply. If that can be proved unequivocally Steorn will eat crow, lawsuit or no lawsuit.

By the way, is Thane Heins available for a commentary on Steorn's demo?

I don't what Thane's status is nor do I speak for him. Neither Steorn or Thane have demonstrated overunity in terms of a self running device and Thane does not want to to touch that with a ten foot pole for commercial reasons from what he has stated.

BOTH Thane and Steorn show (or claim to show in the case of Steorn) a cancellation of Lentz law. They also both appear to doing that in the same way and that is the pink elephant in the room.

Monkey see monkey do, isn't going to understand it if the monkey can't see the pink elephant. The other aspects of the differences or performance in the two are what is irrelevant.

[Omnibus]

Anyway, let's stick to Steorn right now becauste, being better endowed at present, the likelihood of them proving OU definitively (not through a closed loop) is greater.

[futuristic]

This thin steel bushing core, with 1500 turns, drops 6, 3/4" neo's stacked like it was nothing.

Fantastic work, tnx for sharing.

[exnihiloest]

In the Steorn replication from JL Naudin,
http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/indexen.htm
we see the values of voltage and current used to power the coils:
8V, 18A and a duty cycle > 25% (http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/images/steorn4.jpg)
This leads to 36W/coil!
We now understand why Steorn is using a strong 10A/h battery instead of a capacitor...  It is a very unefficient motor.