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[exnihiloest]

Not true. You're also interested in whether or not the motor is efficient which is absolutely irrelevant with regard to whether or not the motor is OU.

False statement. Experiments and accurate measurements are the only way to know if a motor is OU or not OU, efficient or unefficient.
If you saw an efficiency >100%, you guess there is a hidden energy source, and then you can use the COP instead of the efficiency to evaluate the machine.
OU can be seen only in experiments and measurements and that is why I am interested in.

[eatenbyagrue]

False statement. Experiments and accurate measurements are the only way to know if a motor is OU or not OU, efficient or unefficient.
If you saw an efficiency >100%, you guess there is a hidden energy source, and then you can use the COP instead of the efficiency to evaluate the machine.
OU can be seen only in experiments and measurements and that is why I am interested in.

I agree, if you have a device that you can show is over 100% efficient, then overunity is easy to prove there, so certainly efficiency is relevant to overunity.

Omnibus is talking about total energy, though, so I suppose if heat output + mechanical output > energy input, you have overunity.

How do you accurately measure the total heat from a device though?

[futuristic]

If you make enough turns of thin wire on the core and use precise timing it shouln't become a heater.

[mondrasek]

I'd like to see a clear list of tradeoffs.  Such as:

Higher permability core => higher amp turns to saturate
Thinner coil wire => more physical (amp) turns possible (good?)
Thinner coil wire => higher resistance (bad?)
Higher number of (amp) turns => lower current required to saturate
Higher number of (amp) turns => slower response time to saturate (bad? irrelevant?)

And one I have not seen focus on:

Higher number of (amp) turns => thicker toroid => greater "gap" required between coil core and rotor magnets => lower magnetic attraction Force => lower ROTOR TORQUE (bad!)

Remember that the rotor torque is the "free" energy in this design and should be MAXIMIZED as much as reasonable with regards to your fixed parameters in any setup.  RPM is not necessarily proportional to torque.  So a good timing circuit might give high RPM but lower torque.

It is torque that drives the generator to produce the "free" electricity to close the loop.  Anyone accurately measuring torque while adjusting other parameters?

[powercat]

Vid and quote from Larskro
Min. power use 2,9 volts x 50 mAmps = 0,145 watt. Speed 600rpm
I will try to reach zero power or overunity ?? free energy.
The toroid coil have about 300 turns. I have back EMF.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGPRoHgz8Rw

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