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[Groundloop]

@synchro1,

I now can confirm that the energy created in the generator coil of my solid state
is real and useful. I have done a test and used the output to charge another
lead acid battery. I collected the high voltage output in a capacitor and when the
voltage in the capacitor reached approx. 220 volt, then I just discharged the
capacitor into the battery with a SCR triggered from a Neon bulb. When the
high voltage from the capacitor meets the low resistance of the lead acid battery,
then the voltage is "converted" to current in the battery, thus making the ions
move and ultimately charging the battery. I can not claim that my first crude
and simple setup is over unity. But I hope that future versions is better tuned
with better toroids etc. I have also learned that the generator coil must be
a high turn (thin wire) coil so that we generate a LOT of voltage with almost no
current. It looks like this method of generating power need voltage, not current.

I know this because I was WRONG about the fast switch on time regarding the
difference between hexfets and regular transistors. I found that in my first transistor
trial run I have used a diode across the coil to protect the transistor from high
voltage spikes. This WAS a mistake and killed the output voltage. When I removed
the diode and put it across the transistor collector and emitter instead, then I
got the same high voltage effect as with a hexfet. So I was wrong.

I think this solid state shows a great potential for more research. There are numerous
ways to improve the circuit. One way is to make it bigger. The bottom line is that
the system works and the only way it CAN work is by magnetic shielding by the
toroids at each end of the center core.

Regards,
Groundloop.

[PaulLowrance]

I think you guys should watch this video from Bedini: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYh8W3_EZjc

He clearly states what I said a few pages before about the A field. I am more convinced now that that is the case based on the speed increase from some replicators here.

Fausto.

I sure hope that's not "the" John Bedini in that video. Is his analog current meter zeroed out because when he says it's micro amps it shows ~ 10mA. Also it looks like his analog voltage meter is showing ~ 13 volts. That's 130mW. Hmmm.

I don't think Steorn needs to address JB, lol.

[Bruce_TPU]

@synchro1,

I now can confirm that the energy created in the generator coil of my solid state
is real and useful. I have done a test and used the output to charge another
lead acid battery. I collected the high voltage output in a capacitor and when the
voltage in the capacitor reached approx. 220 volt, then I just discharged the
capacitor into the battery with a SCR triggered from a Neon bulb. When the
high voltage from the capacitor meets the low resistance of the lead acid battery,
then the voltage is "converted" to current in the battery, thus making the ions
move and ultimately charging the battery. I can not claim that my first crude
and simple setup is over unity. But I hope that future versions is better tuned
with better toroids etc. I have also learned that the generator coil must be
a high turn (thin wire) coil so that we generate a LOT of voltage with almost no
current. It looks like this method of generating power need voltage, not current.

I know this because I was WRONG about the fast switch on time regarding the
difference between hexfets and regular transistors. I found that in my first transistor
trial run I have used a diode across the coil to protect the transistor from high
voltage spikes. This WAS a mistake and killed the output voltage. When I removed
the diode and put it across the transistor collector and emitter instead, then I
got the same high voltage effect as with a hexfet. So I was wrong.

I think this solid state shows a great potential for more research. There are numerous
ways to improve the circuit. One way is to make it bigger. The bottom line is that
the system works and the only way it CAN work is by magnetic shielding by the
toroids at each end of the center core.

Regards,
Groundloop.

Great work Groundloop!   And great information.  Just a quick question, do you think you could go magnet, toroid, coil, and test that? Not having toroids and magnets on both ends should generate some voltage, but probably not asmuch, but it would be a good test.  Also, have you had the opportunity to test Gyula's idea about directing and strengtening the flux by the steel horsesoe like configuration from sets of magnets on one toroid to the other set on the opposing toroid? Thanks!!

@ all

I have ordered my new toroids last night.  Al of 75 and permeability of 125.  OD of .87".

Cheers,

Bruce

[Groundloop]

@Bruce_TPU,

I'm not able to remove the toroids because they are epoxied to the center core.

Did test this though:

Without magnets = zero (or very close to zero volt) in generator coil.

With ONE magnet at one end = 1/2 the voltage (approx.) as with 2 magnets.
Tried both ends, same result. Did try both polarities, north and south, same result.

With two magnets attracting each other = high voltage on output.
Did try both NS and SN, same result at each ends.

With two magnets PUSHING at each other at both ends, zero volt at output.
Did try NN and SS and zero volt in both cases.

With TWO magnets NS and adjusting the distance to toroid with paper shims,
then I got even higher volt for the particular switch setting and frequency.
So there IS a relationship between magnet strength AND the power you put
into the toroids.

Alex.

[captainpecan]

I sure hope that's not "the" John Bedini in that video. Is his analog current meter zeroed out because when he says it's micro amps it shows ~ 10mA. Also it looks like his analog voltage meter is showing ~ 13 volts. That's 130mW. Hmmm.

I don't think Steorn needs to address JB, lol.

Yes, that is "the" John Bedini.  And if you take another look at that video, he does not say "micro amps"...  He says "micro watts".  It could have been 130 mW before the iron was introduced.  But after he introduced the iron to the core, his current meter bottomed out, showing what appears to be LESS THAN 1ma.  How much less I don't have a clue.  If you figure in all the factors a bit, his statement of "micro watts" seems to hold pretty true as far as I can tell.  Anyone who can run a motor with that much speed, on less than 1ma, has got a pretty good idea of how these things work.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing steorn.  I just love to see John get involved.  He knows more about building efficient motors than most of us will ever know.  His input certainly could help us figure all this out.